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  • Monty Fisto
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    #141
    Originally posted by davefromvancouv

    The argument is that the boxing commissions have a history of not catching cheaters before they cheat, or letting it slide before the fight. Like UKAD allowing Dillian Whyte to fight Oscar Rivas without letting Rivas know that they found PEDs in his system AND allowing Dillian Whyte to use un-inspected gloves.
    No, the argument is that it would be impossible for Fury to cheat in the manner proposed when his hand wrapping and glove-donning was watched by both an athletic comission and the opposing trainer.

    Citing a case where someone got caught using an altogether more surrepticious method agrees with the contention that it would be impossible for Fury to get away with it.

    We get it -- you'll believe anything Wilder says, no matter how lacking the evidence. Well done.

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    • davefromvancouv
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      #142
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto

      No, the argument is that it would be impossible for Fury to cheat in the manner proposed when his hand wrapping and glove-donning was watched by both an athletic comission and the opposing trainer.

      Citing a case where someone got caught using an altogether more surrepticious method agrees with the contention that it would be impossible for Fury to get away with it.

      We get it -- you'll believe anything Wilder says, no matter how lacking the evidence. Well done.
      Who knows when the alleged infraction occurred. There are any number of ways it could have happened, if it did.

      There is credible evidence that there was something seriously wrong with Fury's gloves. Wilder's injuries are consistent with his allegations. He wants to fight Fury in the ring to complete the contractually agreed trilogy. He can only do that by forcing mediation and arbitration. If he wins, Fury is legally obligated to fight him or compensate him. We'll know what the arbitration ruling is when we know it, and it can take up to 6 months. Maybe longer. Until then, Fury is unavailable for any other fight.

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      • DaNeutral.
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        #143
        Originally posted by davefromvancouv

        You don't win when you cheat. Regardless of the official outcome. If Fury really DID beat Wilder, he would have jumped into the ring, made more money and moved on. Right now, he's avoiding it at all costs and it's preventing him from pursuing future endeavors...
        And what was that official outcome?

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          #144
          Originally posted by davefromvancouv

          Of course he had his blood and urine examined post-fight. Which is probably why he said he was drugged. As far as divulging that information, that is up to him.
          So the official drug testers may of found drugs in Wilders system but rather than report back to the state commission, who paid for it and who it is ALWAYS reported back to, you are saying it will of been sent back direct only to Wilder who has chosen to sit on the proof and not release it to prove he was cheated.

          Have you any idea what a fkking idiot you sound right now? I've already told you, this is why you need to stop getting your facts from the sweaty racists on YouTube.

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            #145
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.

            So the official drug testers may of found drugs in Wilders system but rather than report back to the state commission, who paid for it and who it is ALWAYS reported back to, you are saying it will of been sent back direct only to Wilder who has chosen to sit on the proof and not release it to prove he was cheated.

            Have you any idea what a fkking idiot you sound right now? I've already told you, this is why you need to stop getting your facts from the sweaty racists on YouTube.
            Im not sure who’s worse that guy Dave or the other dummy Shoulder ? I’d probably go with Shoulder he’s not even capable of pretending to be smart .

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            • davefromvancouv
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              #146
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.

              So the official drug testers may of found drugs in Wilders system but rather than report back to the state commission, who paid for it and who it is ALWAYS reported back to, you are saying it will of been sent back direct only to Wilder who has chosen to sit on the proof and not release it to prove he was cheated.

              Have you any idea what a fkking idiot you sound right now? I've already told you, this is why you need to stop getting your facts from the sweaty racists on YouTube.
              I didn't speculate any of that. You did.

              I simply said that Wilder's allegations are credible and consistent with his injuries. He wants to take it out on Fury in the ring. Fury doesn't. So Wilder was forced to initiate mediation talks which have now progressed to arbitration proceedings. Until the judge rules, Fury is unavailable to fight anyone else. Should be about 6 months.

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              • Cool Scant
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                #147
                Originally posted by billeau2

                Nothing dummer than someone trying to insult someone's heritage and lambasting the wrong heritage.
                Nothing dumber than lying about where you're from. Of course the guy is from the UK. No other reason to lie about wilder not exercising the rematch clause unless he's an American racist.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #148
                  Daddy Bum throwing stones.....

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                  • billeau2
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Cool Scant
                    Nothing dumber than lying about where you're from. Of course the guy is from the UK. No other reason to lie about wilder not exercising the rematch clause unless he's an American racist.
                    He is Canadian... lol. I do not know about the rematch clause... I always hope the best will fight the best, and it happens less and less these days unfortunately.

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                    • billeau2
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by davefromvancouv

                      Who knows when the alleged infraction occurred. There are any number of ways it could have happened, if it did.

                      There is credible evidence that there was something seriously wrong with Fury's gloves. Wilder's injuries are consistent with his allegations. He wants to fight Fury in the ring to complete the contractually agreed trilogy. He can only do that by forcing mediation and arbitration. If he wins, Fury is legally obligated to fight him or compensate him. We'll know what the arbitration ruling is when we know it, and it can take up to 6 months. Maybe longer. Until then, Fury is unavailable for any other fight.
                      Extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary proof. We know for a fact that certain examinations took place regarding the gloves both fighters wore... There is no credible evidence to the contrary. Wilder's injuries reflected the beating he took in the ring. And according to Wilder a whole bunch of crazy things happened: he was exhausted by a costume, a trainer, who seemingly acted in his best interest, drugged his water... Yet no drug test has verified this... And Fury had something in his glove. This would be a remarkable conspiracy now wouldn't it? But Wilder has yet to show proof of any of these claims so they are ridiculous.

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