Comments Thread For: Fury's Father Tears Apart Wilder, Offers Job To Breland

[davefromvancouv]

Linking to an article where Hearn is talking about Joshua being happy to fight either Fury or Wilder is not proof of Fury saying terms are agreed. Yes, Hearn has been talking for a long time about how he'd like the chips to fall. Arum stating to the media in recent days that he thinks the fight is provisionally agreed is clearly a development -- a sign that talks have progressed from just Eddie saying how easy a deal is to make or what he wants to see.

As for the other points.
You say that the judge will decide if the contract is still enforceable. Agreed. Why does he need to decide on that? Because we have moved past an expiry date stipulated in the contract. If we hadn't there would be no dispute. In other words, it's expired, but is there some kind of caveat for Wilder to wiggle around. We'll see. I don't trust either Arum or Finkel, but judging by the things being said by both parties, and reading between the lines, it sounds like Arum is more confident that it's expired and unenforceable than Finkel is that it's still somehow enforceable despite its expiry.

Fury saying he'll never fight Wilder again. Scared, hurt feelings, bad looks, whatever. All irrelevant. The judge is going to look at the legality of what's in the contract. He doesn't care about Fury's position on his future career. Does Wilder still have the option several months after its expiry date is the question he'll be looking at.

Timing. We've covered this before. When Wilder exercised the option originally, the fight had to happen by July. There was a provision that allowed this to be extended by three months in the case of injury. Wilder took this up as he was injured. So he had to fight by October. This obviously didn't happen. Did we hear anything from Wilder in August or September or October when his camp should have been saying, hang on, we want our fight? As I recall there was complete radio silence. Then in November, after the option was gone, up he pops talking about how Fury cheated by scratching flesh from his ear with his nail.

You know all this. Hence the path to try and resolve the dispute. Mediation, then arbitration.

The judge will be looking at why the fight didn't happen. One of the reasons will be that the economics weren't there. i.e. with COVID there was no way for the networks to get as much money as Wilder and Fury wanted. In other words, the fighters together agreed not to fight within the stipulated time frame.

Fury's ongoing saga of the two fight deal has been "agreed to terms" for close to a year. As I said, Eddie Hearn expressed interest in Fury in March 2020, then several weeks later stated that they had "agreed to terms".

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/10/anthony-joshua-and-tyson-fury-agree-terms-of-two-fight-deal

If you forgot that, then what else have you forgotten? Did you actually watch Wilder's instagram video? As I explained, Fury, Arum and ESPN were in charge of the rematch, THEY'RE the ones who pushed the deadlines from the July date to October then December then February. In NOVEMBER, after Fury's outburst, they then said, too bad contract's expired.

November. Even though they pushed the fight to February.Remember? If not, look it up. I already provided the links to you in previous posts, but it might be a good idea to dig for yourself. Otherwise you'll continue to believe the false narrative that Wilder's silence in August, September and October meant he wasn't available for the fight or didn't want to sign up for the fight. HE WAS NEVER GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN FOR AN OCTOBER FIGHT BECAUSE ARUM AND ESPN HAD ALREADY DELAYED THE FIGHT TO FEBRUARY.

This is why Wilder forced mediation and is now in arbitration. Fury was trying to get out of the fight. And he can't do anything until the arbitration judge decides.

[Monty Fisto]

Linking to articles with Hearn's speculative claims has been definitively responded to. To wit, Hearn has been ****ing on about it for ages. But recent comments from Warren and then Arum suggest actual progress. Look for the fight to happen in June (and then weep).

Re: the dispute process, I've said all I have to say on the subject.

[kafkod]

Fury's ongoing saga of the two fight deal has been "agreed to terms" for close to a year. As I said, Eddie Hearn expressed interest in Fury in March 2020, then several weeks later stated that they had "agreed to terms".

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/10/anthony-joshua-and-tyson-fury-agree-terms-of-two-fight-deal

If you forgot that, then what else have you forgotten? Did you actually watch Wilder's instagram video? As I explained, Fury, Arum and ESPN were in charge of the rematch, THEY'RE the ones who pushed the deadlines from the July date to October then December then February. In NOVEMBER, after Fury's outburst, they then said, too bad contract's expired.

November. Even though they pushed the fight to February.Remember? If not, look it up. I already provided the links to you in previous posts, but it might be a good idea to dig for yourself. Otherwise you'll continue to believe the false narrative that Wilder's silence in August, September and October meant he wasn't available for the fight or didn't want to sign up for the fight. HE WAS NEVER GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN FOR AN OCTOBER FIGHT BECAUSE ARUM AND ESPN HAD ALREADY DELAYED THE FIGHT TO FEBRUARY.

This is why Wilder forced mediation and is now in arbitration. Fury was trying to get out of the fight. And he can't do anything until the arbitration judge decides.

The arbitration is done. Fury is free to fight whoever he wants and it won't be Wilder.

[REDEEMER]

The arbitration is done. Fury is free to fight whoever he wants and it won't be Wilder.

This poster Shoulder Roll wants to bet me still on the bet he practically lost and states it’s not close to being done because it’s being talked about still . How much fake posts has this guy made where he said Wilder is holding up the fight and Fury owes him a rematch ? Have you ever seen such lack of intelligence on the forum, someone begging for me to accept a bet when it’s around the corner ? Ha

Shoulder Roll

[davefromvancouv]

The arbitration is done. Fury is free to fight whoever he wants and it won't be Wilder.

You wish. The arbitration case is still ongoing and Fury can't fight anybody else until the judge's ruling. Arbitration can take up to 6 months.

[ShoulderRoll]

Im not sure who’s worse that guy Dave or the other dummy Shoulder ? I’d probably go with Shoulder he’s not even capable of pretending to be smart .

Is Fury vs Joshua scheduled next yet? Moron.

[ShoulderRoll]

The arbitration is done. Fury is free to fight whoever he wants and it won't be Wilder.

What were the results of the arbitration?

[billeau2]

This poster Shoulder Roll wants to bet me still on the bet he practically lost and states it’s not close to being done because it’s being talked about still . How much fake posts has this guy made where he said Wilder is holding up the fight and Fury owes him a rematch ? Have you ever seen such lack of intelligence on the forum, someone begging for me to accept a bet when it’s around the corner ? Ha

Shoulder Roll

Yet you did not take the bet.... Go figure...Let me guess it was altruism? Shoulder Roll a lack of intelligence? Lol. Your the forum idiot. Mike Tyson has better wins than George Foreman right imbecile? lol. HA.

[billeau2]

This video is interesting... I can't vouch for it, but it seems to make sense. It suggests that a third fight is impossible because of the arbitration process. It also suggests arbitration is a next step from mediation. I thought arbitration was a step before a law suite.

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[kafkod]

This poster Shoulder Roll wants to bet me still on the bet he practically lost and states it’s not close to being done because it’s being talked about still . How much fake posts has this guy made where he said Wilder is holding up the fight and Fury owes him a rematch ? Have you ever seen such lack of intelligence on the forum, someone begging for me to accept a bet when it’s around the corner ? Ha

Shoulder Roll

Fury and Wilder have both said they are moving on from fighting each other again and looking at other opponents, so the trilogy iight between them is clearly dead. But that doesn't necessarily mean Fury and AJ will fight each other next. It's possible they might sign a deal allowing Fury a tune-up, considering how long he's been out of the ring.