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  • #41
    PWill did dominate WW but i'm pretty sure Pavlik would have done the same to that WW the same night. my point is PWill hasnt beaten a solid fighter at their peek besides margarito and he was made to order for a good fighter which PWill is. but PWill needs to do more in the ring imo to garnish such praise. he is most known for saying he is avoided than actually being avoided.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by drudolphreese View Post
      PWill did dominate WW but i'm pretty sure Pavlik would have done the same to that WW the same night. my point is PWill hasnt beaten a solid fighter at their peek besides margarito and he was made to order for a good fighter which PWill is. but PWill needs to do more in the ring imo to garnish such praise. he is most known for saying he is avoided than actually being avoided.
      You're free to assume that Kelly would do the same to Winky. Doesn't make it fact though... And how do you know if many top guys are ready to fight him?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
        You're free to assume that Kelly would do the same to Winky. Doesn't make it fact though... And how do you know if many top guys are ready to fight him?
        all i know is people assume PWill will dominate Pavlik but have no basis. PWill's resume is not as good as Pavliks. Pavlik is the legit MW, hits harder and has been taking punches from bigger guys. PWill has more work in the ring to do before i give him a easy night agaist the MW champ.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by jantzen212003 View Post
          Reminder:

          Pavlik has his natural following in AC and PW brings the HBO money! Thats reason enough.

          Who the *** else is Pavlik goin to fight? Exactly, so kill the nonsense.
          Bottom line is that pavlik is looking suspect right now and his fans have no justification for so they/u resort to attacking a guy that always wants to fight.
          I'm not attacking Paul's skills and I sure as hell ain't a Pavlik fan. I think Pavlik is pretty much shot and dodging any real fight right now. However, Paul Williams drives me insane with "The Most Feared Man In Boxing" schtick.

          Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
          where have u been? that contract **** is old, has been settled....you're talking like PW's demands are what's holding the fight up....

          also, i've heard williams called overhyped, overrated, but it boggles my mind to hear the term "boring" mentioned when talking about dude....if PW is "boring," i wonder what terms you use to describe guys like mayweather and hopkins, whom i also disagree with being labeled "boring."
          Again, I am only stating that Paul Williams want's more than he deserves. It's the same nonsense as David Haye. I don't care how crap the contract is you take it, become the champ, and then call the shots. Not the other way around.

          And Paul Williams is boring. I'm not saying he isnt talented, I am just saying he is boring. He obviously isn't a Pac or Cotto, doesnt have the skill of Mayweather and he isnt as hilariously slick as Hopkins (by slick I mean kinda awesomely dirty). Paul Williams has long arms and ungodly stamina but is boring. You may not agree, but i'd say his lack of fan base kinda shows i'm not in the minority.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
            If you think Paul Williams is boring to watch you are an incredibly ignorant boxing fan.
            Nah, it just means I have different taste than you. Assuming someone is an ignorant fan due to the fact that you have differing tastes makes you ignorant in general.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by KittenFlaps View Post
              Nah, it just means I have different taste than you. Assuming someone is an ignorant fan due to the fact that you have differing tastes makes you ignorant in general.
              Describing Paul Williams style as "boring" is ignorant as a boxing fan. A boxer who throws 120 punches a round is not "boring" no matter how you try to spin it. That's a fact if you truly like boxing. Your comments were ignorant and that's not the only one I'm talking about.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                Describing Paul Williams style as "boring" is ignorant as a boxing fan. A boxer who throws 120 punches a round is not "boring" no matter how you try to spin it. That's a fact if you truly like boxing.
                I don't know who's more ignorant; you for believing that your opinion is the only valid view, or me for responding to you a second time.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by KittenFlaps View Post
                  I don't know who's more ignorant; you for believing that your opinion is the only valid view, or me for responding to you a second time.
                  I can answer that question. You post with emotion in place of logic which makes you the ignorant one. Still waiting for you to answer how a fighter who punches every minute of a round is "boring" I won't hold my breath.
                  Last edited by joseph5620; 08-24-2009, 02:46 PM.

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                  • #49
                    pavs is on a beer bender nic cage leaving las vegas style;

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                      I can answer that question. You post with emotion in place of logic which makes you the ignorant one. Still waiting for you to answer how a fighter who punches every minute of a round is "boring" I won't hold my breath.
                      It's boring to watch. There's 120 punches that aren't going to go anywhere I want them to. They aren't going to cause drama. They are going to keep his opponent at bay making sure he win's every round without taking many shots.

                      It's like watching Malignaggi to me. Sure Malignaggi has incredible footwork and handspeed, but it's not going to take a fight in the high drama, action packed, viscerally entertaining direction I want it to go in.

                      I don't understand how me liking fighters like Frazier, Duran, Gatti, Cotto, and Pac makes me ignorant. I don't enjoy watching Paul Williams fight. I don't enjoy watching Malignaggi fight. I don't enjoy watching Winky Wright fight.

                      Just because I like one type of fighter and think that some fighters are boring shouldn't lead you to believe I am ignorant and the fact that it does simply blows my mind.

                      And then I remember I am arguing on the internet.

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