Pacquiao-Cotto: WBO Title, WBC Diamond Belt at Stake

[strugler]

I agree, Manny Pacquiao should have manned up and fought Miguel
Cotto at 147 for the WBO title to put more emphasis on his legacy.
Considering he has fought at the 147Lb limit before with Oscar De
La Hoya? What's the difference with Cotto? Manny and team Pac
basically did everything in their power to lean everything in their
favor to make Pac look great and that's really lame. With Pacquiao
though, it has been constant drama about weight and a title? I hope
Cotto puts Pac out BUT the only downside to it is When/IF Cotto does
do it, people will say Pac was too small BUT Pac is the one making all
the rules to fit in his favor. Freddie Roach is a phony, always bragging
about how great Pac is but not willing to let him go that extra mile.
A legit 147 title fight between Pac/Cotto would have been a way to
go win or lose BUT now we have all this weight drama AND a another
worthless title. IF somebody doesn't stop Pac I can only imagine
what other rules they will bend or break. I like Pac but not a big
fan of him especially at this time and am leaning towards Cotto
AND to many that is a surprise I'm sure.

WRONG..........ODH was a lottery he dictates...........shoe is in the other foot....................if it would have been lower than 145 it would be a bitchmove.................................but its fair in this weight....i do agree that its kinda loss/lose situation for Cotto though..............Freddie aint a phony either...............as much as you hate him

[GRUSTLER]

WRONG..........ODH was a lottery he dictates...........shoe is in the other foot....................if it would have been lower than 145 it would be a bitchmove.................................but its fair in this weight....i do agree that its kinda loss/lose situation for Cotto though..............Freddie aint a phony either...............as much as you hate him

I don't hate Freddie because I never met him personally
to have an opinion on him as a person. What I do know
is that Roach is very cautious in picking safe fights for
Manny and then bigs them up as if they were his hardest
fights to date. The last tough opponent Manny fought was
Juan Manuel Marquez and that fight could have easily gone
to Marquez. Since then he has been on easy street. Lets
say that Roach did pick Cotto because he saw something
that he could manipulate and get Pacquiao the win, why
not do it for real at 147 for the title? Manny has fought
at the 147 LB limit before right? That only tells me that
Freddie knew Oscar was a easy win and Cotto wouldn't
be at the WW limit. Roach is a phony but that's just my
opinion. Check this interview out for yourself and you
decide.

http://www.youtube.com/v/mBWNOyrHKKo&hl=en&fs=1

[BoxingChaos]

I will laugh if Miguel Cotto does win


All this talk about the belts for Manny and it just seems like far too many people are over looking Miguel Cotto. These people better hope and pray that Cotto did not have an off night with Clottey. I think Cotto still has a little something, something left.

I am still waiting for JMM vs PBF.
Floyd should win that fight.
But who knows, I am putting my bet down on Floyd.

I am still very undecided about the out come of the PAC/Cotto bout. Still plenty of time to ponder on this one.

[jetgeomcx]

I agree, Manny Pacquiao should have manned up and fought Miguel
Cotto at 147 for the WBO title to put more emphasis on his legacy.
Considering he has fought at the 147Lb limit before with Oscar De
La Hoya? What's the difference with Cotto? Manny and team Pac
basically did everything in their power to lean everything in their
favor to make Pac look great and that's really lame. With Pacquiao
though, it has been constant drama about weight and a title? I hope
Cotto puts Pac out BUT the only downside to it is When/IF Cotto does
do it, people will say Pac was too small BUT Pac is the one making all the rules to fit in his favor. Freddie Roach is a phony, always bragging
about how great Pac is but not willing to let him go that extra mile.
A legit 147 title fight between Pac/Cotto would have been a way to
go win or lose BUT now we have all this weight drama AND a another
worthless title. IF somebody doesn't stop Pac I can only imagine
what other rules they will bend or break. I like Pac but not a big
fan of him especially at this time and am leaning towards Cotto
AND to many that is a surprise I'm sure.

WHOA there, brah.....put some break!!
punto y punto.....:
- manny fought oscar at agreed weigh-in limit of 145,....not 147.
oscar is to blame here, not pac!! sorry for u if u don't know that.
oscar had fought in a catch weight before.
- team manny is doig nothing to "tilt the fyt in his favor".
what they want is a fair and more balanced fyt!!
- constant drama?? this is just the 2nd time manny will fyt in a
catchwt...against obiously bigger opponents.
- making all the rules?? catchwt fyts were done since a long time ago.
pac did not introduce that rule, and oscar chose to do it.
what other rules did pac bend or break??
- how far is "the extra mile you want?? is fyting a big welter at 145 from 106
is not enough extra milessss?? you're one bloke that is very hard to please..
- leaning towards cotto is never a surprise to anybody!!
anybody will say it will cotto unless one is a pacfan.

i am a pacfan..objective and logical.
i want manny to win...obviously.
and i want manny to fyt cotto at 147 for the belt.
coz i've been thinking.... again logically....
- cotto will rehydrate to his regular 160 lbs during fyt time whether he
weighed-in at 145 or 147.
- cotto won't have any difficulty making the 145, why the drama on this by
the cottofans and pachaters??
- manny will be more appreciated by all if he let cotto to come at 147...he
will be accalimed win or lose specially if he puts a good account of himself.
- then all the haters will have nothing more to say..........

there is still time for team pacquiao to let cotto come in at 147 lbs.
i hope they see the light of it!!

[chinoy]

WBC diamond belt my ass.....its just one way of saying, I want my share of the money pot....

[dyu]

I agree, Manny Pacquiao should have manned up and fought Miguel
Cotto at 147 for the WBO title to put more emphasis on his legacy.
Considering he has fought at the 147Lb limit before with Oscar De
La Hoya? What's the difference with Cotto? Manny and team Pac
basically did everything in their power to lean everything in their
favor to make Pac look great and that's really lame. With Pacquiao
though, it has been constant drama about weight and a title? I hope
Cotto puts Pac out BUT the only downside to it is When/IF Cotto does
do it, people will say Pac was too small BUT Pac is the one making all
the rules to fit in his favor. Freddie Roach is a phony, always bragging
about how great Pac is but not willing to let him go that extra mile.
A legit 147 title fight between Pac/Cotto would have been a way to
go win or lose BUT now we have all this weight drama AND a another
worthless title. IF somebody doesn't stop Pac I can only imagine
what other rules they will bend or break. I like Pac but not a big
fan of him especially at this time and am leaning towards Cotto
AND to many that is a surprise I'm sure.

I'm more or less an observer, I dont comment that much. Frankly, the way you are acting is really not a surprise ... based from your posts ... you hate manny (or prolly his team) more that you lean towards cotto.

Just a keen observation man. Sometimes you have to put yourself in the fighter's shoes to view things differently. And yea, ignore the pac nuthuggers who think pac is invincible.

[Pugilistic™]

WBC diamond belt..............What a joke.

[prsi]

you are dead wrong on your highlighted statement.
cotto can choose not to put his belt on the line...even return it to wbo and vacate the title.
but it is wbo who can say if the belt is on the line for manny to win it.
and wbo already said that the belt will go on the line.
manny will be declared wbo welter champion if he wins.....
title is vacant if cotto wins.

Sorry Jetgeomcx but you are wrong,

As per section 20 of the WBO rules, if a title is declared vacate it can only be won in a bout between the #1 and # 2 classified contender which is at this moment Pacquiao #1 and Clottey #2.

True that the WBO can put the title on the line for Pacquiao but not against Cotto it will have to be against the #2 classified fighter because Cotto will be the one vacating the title.

That's why i said that it will be in Cotto's decision, whether he vacates or not, if the title will or will not be on the line in this fight..

This is obviously if the WBO ****** President don't try to bend or change his own rules again.!!!!

Heres the link and scroll down to section 20 "PROCEDURE WHEN A TITLE IS DECLARED VACANT"

http://www.wbo-int.com/revised/WBO_Rules_Regulations.pdf

[GRUSTLER]

WHOA there, brah.....put some break!!
punto y punto.....:
- manny fought oscar at agreed weigh-in limit of 145,....not 147.
oscar is to blame here, not pac!! sorry for u if u don't know that.
oscar had fought in a catch weight before.
- team manny is doig nothing to "tilt the fyt in his favor".
what they want is a fair and more balanced fyt!!
- constant drama?? this is just the 2nd time manny will fyt in a
catchwt...against obiously bigger opponents.
- making all the rules?? catchwt fyts were done since a long time ago.
pac did not introduce that rule, and oscar chose to do it.
what other rules did pac bend or break??
- how far is "the extra mile you want?? is fyting a big welter at 145 from 106
is not enough extra milessss?? you're one bloke that is very hard to please..
- leaning towards cotto is never a surprise to anybody!!
anybody will say it will cotto unless one is a pacfan.

i am a pacfan..objective and logical.
i want manny to win...obviously.
and i want manny to fyt cotto at 147 for the belt.
coz i've been thinking.... again logically....
- cotto will rehydrate to his regular 160 lbs during fyt time whether he
weighed-in at 145 or 147.
- cotto won't have any difficulty making the 145, why the drama on this by
the cottofans and pachaters??
- manny will be more appreciated by all if he let cotto to come at 147...he
will be accalimed win or lose specially if he puts a good account of himself.
- then all the haters will have nothing more to say..........

there is still time for team pacquiao to let cotto come in at 147 lbs.
i hope they see the light of it!!

On December 6, 2008, Pacquiao faced Oscar De La Hoya at
the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, in a fight called
Dream Match. Pacquiao asserted himself over De La Hoya from
the first round till the eighth round. De La Hoya's corner threw
in the towel before the start of the 9th round. Pacquiao won via
technical knockout. Presented by Golden Boy Promotions and
Top Rank, Inc., the bout was scheduled as a 12-round,
non-title fight contested at the 147-pound
Welterweight limit.

Although Pacquiao went into the fight widely recognized as
the leading pound-for-pound boxer in the world, some boxing
pundits had speculated that 147 pounds could be too far above
his natural weight against the larger De La Hoya.

[Iceta]

I agree, Manny Pacquiao should have manned up and fought Miguel
Cotto at 147 for the WBO title to put more emphasis on his legacy.
Considering he has fought at the 147Lb limit before with Oscar De
La Hoya? What's the difference with Cotto? Manny and team Pac
basically did everything in their power to lean everything in their
favor to make Pac look great and that's really lame. With Pacquiao
though, it has been constant drama about weight and a title? I hope
Cotto puts Pac out BUT the only downside to it is When/IF Cotto does
do it, people will say Pac was too small BUT Pac is the one making all
the rules to fit in his favor. Freddie Roach is a phony, always bragging
about how great Pac is but not willing to let him go that extra mile.
A legit 147 title fight between Pac/Cotto would have been a way to
go win or lose BUT now we have all this weight drama AND a another
worthless title. IF somebody doesn't stop Pac I can only imagine
what other rules they will bend or break. I like Pac but not a big
fan of him especially at this time and am leaning towards Cotto
AND to many that is a surprise I'm sure.

I am actually rooting for Cotto in this fight as well. I hate to say it, because in actuality I'm a way bigger fan of Pacman than Cotto. But Manny is trying to cheat fans out of a legit fight by #1. Going after a guy who is not even the biggest threat (That would be Shane Mosley unless the ring rust has caught up with him), #2. He is not fighting Cotto at his best weight as you put it.