Pacquiao-Cotto: WBO Title, WBC Diamond Belt at Stake

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  • wizard king
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    #101
    i think many people need to wash manny cum off their eyes and re-see marqez and morales fight cause thats the same pac lacking defesene repetitive fighter cotto is gonna face and cotto is gonna **** manny afther breakfest just saying.

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    • Iceta
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      #102
      If this joke of a belt is involved with the JMM-Floyd fight I wouldn't blame them if it was. This is a scheme cooked up by Arum, Suliman, and Pacquaio and all of his advisers.

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      • prsi
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        #103
        Originally posted by jetgeomcx
        that ruling on wbo charter is correct.
        but your interpretation is flawed.
        true that #1 and #2 ranked boxers will contest the vacant tilte.
        but then....cotto is still fyting only he doesn't want to put the belt on the line...and/or he is vacating.
        wbo already stated that the belt will be on the line since the ex-champ(stripped voluntarily) is fyting the #1 contender.

        but to everybody's dismay...wbo made manny #1 contender for the title!!
        to this i don't buy!!
        it was pure and simple "money decision"... accomodation for the p4p king, who's only fyt at welter is against oscar....to the great disadvantage of those welters down the line.

        my piece....
        manny should fyt cotto at 147 max limit for the ww belt.
        enough said from me.....
        By Cotto vacating he will not be representing the WBO, will not be paying any sanctioning fees and will not be the WBO #1 or #2 contender as a matter of fact he wont be representing the WBO at all.The only thing flawed here is the statement that of the #1 contender will have the title on the line by fighting an "voluntarily stripped" champion. Cotto will not voluntarly turn in the title, if the WBO insist (mandate)of making him put the title on the line for a non recognized WW title weight limit (145).

        If that's the case Cotto will not pay the fees and he will turn in the title IF WBO decide to take it away (remove him for the title). But in no means this is voluntary. Not to mention the legal Repercussions that this might bring against the WBO for bending their own rules. Cotto has already agreed to pay his fees as a WBO Champion but to have a non WBO title fight (also estipulated in the regulations). Remember that Cotto has also stated that he will defend his WW title against Pacquiao but at the recognized WBO WW Championship weight limit which is 147.

        Not to mentioned the fact that even Clottey will have legal case because if the WBO unilateraly decides to put the vacated title on the line without including him as the #2 contender. That will be against the WBO own regulations.

        By the way even if it would had been a "voluntary stripped" vacated title there's no where in the regulations to back up the stament in red from your post (knowing that these word were not yours).

        Notice that only a ****** WBO President will come up with phrase like Voluntary Stripped. Those 2 words don't even make sense together.

        Either you voluntary turn some thing in or it's stripped away (taken not given), but what the hell is "voluntary stripped".

        Any way my friend I completetly agree with you on the 2nd part of you post. Well said
        Last edited by prsi; 08-16-2009, 11:11 AM.

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        • Iceta
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          #104
          Cotto does need to get a better corner for this fight. That's why even though he is starting training early that is the only thing that he has going for him. Other than that I still think Pacquiao is going to beat him up bad. Cotto just has too many things going against him. That scar tissue over his eye isn't going to disappear.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Iceta
            Cotto does need to get a better corner for this fight. That's why even though he is starting training early that is the only thing that he has going for him. Other than that I still think Pacquiao is going to beat him up bad. Cotto just has too many things going against him. That scar tissue over his eye isn't going to disappear.
            Cotto is too easy to hit but I think if Cotto comes in with
            the mentality he had for the Zab fight then he could possible
            maul Pac down. Freddie Roach with out a doubt will find
            a way for Manny to expose Cotto so it would be in Cotto's
            best interest to have some experience trainer in his corner
            to help him because just training early is not going to do it
            for him. HE NEEDS A PLAN.

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            • prsi
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              #106
              Originally posted by Iceta
              Cotto does need to get a better corner for this fight. That's why even though he is starting training early that is the only thing that he has going for him. Other than that I still think Pacquiao is going to beat him up bad. Cotto just has too many things going against him. That scar tissue over his eye isn't going to disappear.
              The corner issue is a clear advantage to Pacman, but it might also hurt Cotto to bring a new trainer to a fight of this magnitute specially when both fighters will probably make adjustment more than twice during the fight. It will demand lots of experince traininig a fighter to know what he can or can not adjust to within a fight. However it wouldn't hurt to add somebody experienced to the training camp for future consideration as lead trainer once he gains more experience on what the fighter can or can not do.
              Last edited by prsi; 08-16-2009, 11:31 AM.

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              • Iceta
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                #107
                Speaking of scar tissue though, I know that Pacquiao still has some over his right eye from that first fight with Morales. And it was re-opened by Juan Manuel Marquez. But the problem for Cotto is, his cut from the Clottey fight is fresh and less healed.

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                • DeymarPR
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                  #108
                  look at it like this guys, it seems to me the Diamond Belt is more like a trophy, thats what they should really say, the winner will be awarded the belt, cus i hope they dont actually make either winner defend the belt after this

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                  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                    #109
                    This is ridiculous, if Cotto wins and keeps that Gay ass Diamond belt ill be very dispointed.
                    This is the kind o fthing that makes oxing look bad. In fact it turns the casual fan away, because they cant understan WTF is going on.

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                    • Iceta
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                      #110
                      And speaking of Pacquiao's victory over Hatton, there are a whole bunch of other things that make it look suspect. In the 24/7 show, not only was Mayweather Sr. showing up late to the sessions. Hatton was getting handled by his sparring partners like that Cuban fighter named Lara. I forget how to spell his first name. The cameras wouldn't even show Hatton's sparring sessions, and that nailed it for me that he would get destroyed by Pacquiao.

                      I also don't think that Hatton had both of his feet away from retirement. Just listen to the guy talk now. And he has never taken good care of himself and it is a reason why he has a heart condition. So what was so great about that victory for Pacquiao or Mayweather for that matter? But at least Manny did beat him at his natural weight and got a legit title out of it unlike this WBC diamond **** belt.

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