Pacquiao-Cotto Title Bout Rests on WBO's Section 15

[prsi]

there are people that actually thought the wbo was legit. lol u guys are so gullible. I've been trashing that belt since margo had it.



WW = anything between 141-147; 145 falls within that range, thus the titles can be on the line, pending negotiations. please get this in your brain.

Agreed on the 1st disagrre on the 2nd.

145 falls in the range but it is not limited to that weight class.
By limiting to 145, does it mean that 146 and 147 are no longer within the range??
Is the WW class now from 141-145, because we are talking about a fighter who just defended his title at 146 (Cotto) against a fighter at 147 (Clottey).

[prsi]

I understand that Cotto is being played by these sanctioning bodies, but I can't understand why he re-signed with Arum if he is so hesitant to go along with the program of the belt being on the line. He talks about how Arum wasn't there for him in the aftermath of the Margarito fiasco, and then turns around and signs with him for the purpose of landing a Pacquiao fight. And now that the fight is set up, he waits to stand up for himself after he signed the deal witht the devil. He may have not known that the WBO was going to pull this before he signed his contract with Top Rank though.

Luckily for Cotto the extension on the contract was base on the Pacquaio fight to be made under the initial agreement, therefore if that's changed the extension is no longer valid.
Here's the thread that was posted way before the title issue.

Good Post though!!!

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=21133

[prsi]

pacquioa can weight 145 if he wants but the champion should not be mandated to fight at 145 when the limit is 147

Well said!!

There is no rule that Varcarcel has within his regulations to back up the theory of the weight limit of 145 for a WW title fight. On the contrary his own rule say UP TO 147.
It has happened before becasue the boxers had agreed to it not because it was mandated by a ****** PRESIDENT BEING GREEDY AND WANTING TO CASH IN.

[wecreep]

WW = anything between 141-147; 145 falls within that range, thus the titles can be on the line, pending negotiations. please get this in your brain.

Once again, someone highlighting the skewed logic of this debate without realizing it.

147 falls in that range also. You typed it out. Negotiations were not for a title fight.

[lcheezy]

bob never mentioned the title period.this was supposed to be a personal top rank fight but it was pac all of a sudden wanted to be for the title and i don't blame him. i don't blame cotto either.this fight might not happen and bob will be the blame. if it does then cotto wins in 7.body attack.

[boricuarn]

This started already to stink, the same ****** news every day. At the end the fight will be for the WW championship, Arum will pay the fee and Cotto will give the tittle back after the destruction of Pacquiao in 6 rounds.

[..WaRSpencE..]

This is some bull**** catering to Pac..WTF has he done to be considered the number 1 WW by the WBO??..

I hope Cotto still vacates that JOKE of a belt..whoops Pacs ass and just fights Mosley for the WBA and Lineal title..

[Dave Rado]

Luckily for Cotto the extension on the contract was base on the Pacquaio fight to be made under the initial agreement, therefore if that's changed the extension is no longer valid.
Here's the thread that was posted way before the title issue.

Good Post though!!!

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=21133

But if Cotto takes the fight with Pac, but vacates or is stripped of his title, will he be forced to stick with Arum? AFAIK, the extension was not based on him keeping his title, so I imagine the extension would still be legally valid?

[Dave Rado]

Once again, someone highlighting the skewed logic of this debate without realizing it.

147 falls in that range also. You typed it out. Negotiations were not for a title fight.

In any case there is no range. There is only an upper limit of 147. There is no lower limit. Henry Armstrong only weighed 133lb when he won the Welterweight title and weighed less that 140lb in most of his defences. There is no lower limit.

The WBO rules are here. They do not specify a range of 141-147. They only specify an upper limit of 147.

I don't understand why so few people seem to be able to grasp this fact. You could weigh 108lb and still fight for a Welterweight title under the rules of boxing, provided the fight could be made.

But if you change the limit from 147 to 145, it becomes a catchweight fight. 145 is not in any range because there is no range.

[prsi]

But if Cotto takes the fight with Pac, but vacates or is stripped of his title, will he be forced to stick with Arum? AFAIK, the extension was not based on him keeping his title, so I imagine the extension would still be legally valid?

Yes, he will have to stick with Arum if they make the fight with the title or without the title. It will be up to Cotto to decide if he wants the fight and by doing so the extention of the contract. BUt f he refuses to fight Pacamn because there has been a change in their initial agreement the extention if off.