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  • Originally posted by Gabilan View Post
    Yeah. But like I have posted a million times already, the can make Pac the 1 contender and have him fight for the vacant title. What the WBO wouldnt be able to do is force Cotto to pay them any money at all.
    Pacquiao is already the #1 contender as per the WBO ranks but he will only win a vacate title buy fighting the #2 contender which is Joshua Clottey at this moment and i beleive Pacman wont go that route.

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    • Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
      If Cotto pays the 150,000 WBO sanctioning fee, and not put the title on the line, the WBO earns.

      If Cotto drops the title, and wins the fight, the WBO will end up win no money and a vacant title.

      I suggest Pacquiao not sign unless specifically stated in the contract that the title is on the line or fight at 147 for the title, or cancel the fight altogether. He should not leave himself under the mercy of sanctioning bodies, not make this world mega event just an exhibition fight.
      Both statements above are correct that's a perfect translation of the WBO rules.

      I must add that if Cotto vacates the title the fight will not have the title on the line even if Pacman wins, because in case of the of a vacant title the # 1 rank fighter (in this case Pacman) will have to fight the # 2 rank fighter (currently being Joshua Clottey).
      Last edited by prsi; 08-08-2009, 08:26 PM.

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      • Moan and Groan all you want. Manny will fight for this title NO MATTER WHAT! Nothing Cotto can do can stop it. He can back out the fight all together and WBO will put the Title up as Vacant and get it anyway... End Of Story

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        • The way I see the fight is 2 million dolars away from being made if both fighters stick to their demands and words, and i'll explain you why.

          Cotto has agreed to fight for the title if he's not limited to 145 and he will pay his fee.

          Pacquiao also said he would pay his fee to challenge Cotto for the belt but as per the initiall agreement there will be a clause that says that for every pound that Cotto comes over the 145 weight limit agreed (with no title mentioned at that moment) he will have to pay 1 million dolars therefore if he comes at 147 he will have to pay 2 million dolars.

          Arum can probably sign a contract with Cotto that he will pay the 2 million dolars to Pacquaio if he agrees to put the belt on the line and come at 147.

          This will practically please Cotto's demand indirectly by fighting for the WW title with no restrictions and will also be within the restritions of weight established by Pacquiao on the initial agreement.

          Everybody will get what they want, but Arum will have to invest a little more (2 million)
          Last edited by prsi; 08-08-2009, 08:49 PM.

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          • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
            Moan and Groan all you want. Manny will fight for this title NO MATTER WHAT! Nothing Cotto can do can stop it. He can back out the fight all together and WBO will put the Title up as Vacant and get it anyway... End Of Story
            Yes but in that case it will be against Joshua Clottey which is the #2 contender of the WBO WW

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            • Originally posted by prsi View Post
              Yes but in that case it will be against Joshua Clottey which is the #2 contender of the WBO WW
              Pac vs Clottey? Would be another great fight.

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              • Pac VS Clottey and it would be at 147.. i think pac rather go the mosley route before he did that.

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                • Originally posted by prsi View Post
                  Pacquiao is already the #1 contender as per the WBO ranks but he will only win a vacate title buy fighting the #2 contender which is Joshua Clottey at this moment and i beleive Pacman wont go that route.
                  Valcarcel has already mentioned that possiblity. Follow the logic: If Cotto vacates the fight would be #1 vs #2. But, because Cotto is not willing to pay the sanctioning fees he would not be able to actually win the belt. Since Pac has already stated that he will pay the fees he would win the title should he defeat Cotto. Remember that the fees are not payed up front. The same thing happened with Baldomir. He won all the titles but since he did not pay all the sanctioning fees he did not keep all of them. Confusing but simple man.

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                  • Originally posted by joerville View Post
                    Yeah... its all about money and hype....This news will reduce the whining, moaning and crying of some fans which is a bit annoying.
                    the only one I see doing everything you stated is you. Everyone here is just fired up about the fight and their countryman, its all a healthy dose of taking shot at the opposing fighter.

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                    • Originally posted by prsi View Post
                      The way I see the fight is 2 million dolars away from being made if both fighters stick to their demands and words, and i'll explain you why.

                      Cotto has agreed to fight for the title if he's not limited to 145 and he will pay his fee.

                      Pacquiao also said he would pay his fee to challenge Cotto for the belt but as per the initiall agreement there will be a clause that says that for every pound that Cotto comes over the 145 weight limit agreed (with no title mentioned at that moment) he will have to pay 1 million dolars therefore if he comes at 147 he will have to pay 2 million dolars.

                      Arum can probably sign a contract with Cotto that he will pay the 2 million dolars to Pacquaio if he agrees to put the belt on the line and come at 147.

                      This will practically please Cotto's demand indirectly by fighting for the WW title with no restrictions and will also be within the restritions of weight established by Pacquiao on the initial agreement.

                      Everybody will get what they want, but Arum will have to invest a little more (2 million)
                      good logic... still i think team pac wont give up those 2 pounds.. the title will be on the line.. and arum will fix this. but it will gonna cost him more than that...

                      im almost 99.9 % sure that freddie wont give back those 2 pounds.

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