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  • warp1432
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    #31
    Campbell was getting pounded in round 3. I don't care if he was blocking or sliping some of them, the majority of the round he was eating leather. Then after getting hurt in the last 20 seconds, he went back into the corner claiming he couldn't see.

    You don't think Campbell isn't smart enough to hold on and tell him that he couldn't see? He was tried to fight on and then got caught and was getting overwhelmed. The fact he went all of the round is enough for me.

    Speaking of which, even if the cut was caused by a butt, it was still probably worsened by the shots Bradley landed, so that should count for something.

    Campbell was hurt in the last 20 seconds and then went back to the corner and claimed he couldn't see. He was looking for a no contest, he even said so himself.

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    • ..WaRSpencE..
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      #32
      Originally posted by warp1432
      Campbell was getting pounded in round 3. I don't care if he was blocking or sliping some of them, the majority of the round he was eating leather. Then after getting hurt in the last 20 seconds, he went back into the corner claiming he couldn't see.

      You don't think Campbell isn't smart enough to hold on and tell him that he couldn't see? He was tried to fight on and then got caught and was getting overwhelmed. The fact he went all of the round is enough for me.

      Speaking of which, even if the cut was caused by a butt, it was still probably worsened by the shots Bradley landed, so that should count for something.

      Campbell was hurt in the last 20 seconds and then went back to the corner and claimed he couldn't see. He was looking for a no contest, he even said so himself.

      I swear!..

      Smartest 16 year old that I e-know!..

      That's exactly what went down..no doubt about it!!

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        #33
        Bradley is not that skilled so Nate was getting some things done but he was also not dealing well with Bradley's barrage of punches. Bradley was throwing and landing more but Nate was still trying. Bradley was also killing Nate to the mid section that did not bode well for Nate.

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          #34
          I'm not calling Campbell a quitter, but it just seems wrong when a fighter takes those many shots and also a punch right after the butt and get to have a no contest. I see Campbell's point of view, but he should have took a knee or something and tell the ref that he couldn't see.

          It's also very frustrating like the rest of you said.

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            #35
            Originally posted by tyson
            I completely agree. It's nice to see some common sense around these parts; it is indeed very hard to come by.

            There's a new generation of fighters in boxing today. A new generation that brings along a new generation of fight fans too.

            More and more of the fighters are getting fast and flashy, lots of movement, lots of punches, lots of flair...
            Unfortunately for the sport though is the fact that the new generation of boxing fans have mostly no experience from the sport, its past fighters or anything resembling technical knowledge.

            Because under the flash, speed and flair lies very little substance in the majority of cases.
            The subtle, almost hidden, techniques from yesteryear are quickly forgotten by the new type of fighters, and are completely gone in the minds of most boxing fans.
            When it comes to the fighters we can look at the amateurs to find the reason for this change; The gloves, point system, techniques have all changed. It favours activity and neglects power.
            This leads to faster and more reckless fighting/punching, less defence and a more aggressive and un-calculated approach to the art of boxing.

            It goes without saying that the fighters with above average speed and punching activity/stamina will do well in the amateurs.
            These are the fighters that goes pro too.

            The problem, in my mind, arises when this new generation meets the old; Very much like the fight tonight.
            Bradley with his flash and flair against the old-school trick-master Campbell.
            New fans will look at the flash and flair and think "ohmaGOD his whuppin ass!" while old fans, real followers of the sport will notice the smaller things; things like Shawn pointed out- Checking balance, tapping face in clinches, shoulder-showing etc.
            All the time while the flash is coming at him, Nate is looking, watching, sensing the rythm and motion and setting himself up to time the younger fighter.

            It is a matter of tactical savvy. It is a matter of experience and knowledge about the sweeter points of the sweet science. It is a matter which very few of you understand.
            Which is the problem I mentioned; the majority of fans will short-change the old-school fighter because the lack of flash.
            I think you are right, the amateur system has created a new breed of fighter who by and large has forgotten many of the old school tricks. Infighting is really becoming a lost art in the modern amateur system. The fighters that win are the fast fighters with long reach that can get off first and run. There is no reward for working the craft, or placing body shots, which is disappointing.

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              #36
              Originally posted by warp1432
              Campbell was getting pounded in round 3. I don't care if he was blocking or sliping some of them, the majority of the round he was eating leather. Then after getting hurt in the last 20 seconds, he went back into the corner claiming he couldn't see.

              You don't think Campbell isn't smart enough to hold on and tell him that he couldn't see? He was tried to fight on and then got caught and was getting overwhelmed. The fact he went all of the round is enough for me.

              Speaking of which, even if the cut was caused by a butt, it was still probably worsened by the shots Bradley landed, so that should count for something.

              Campbell was hurt in the last 20 seconds and then went back to the corner and claimed he couldn't see. He was looking for a no contest, he even said so himself.
              Originally posted by warp1432
              I'm not calling Campbell a quitter, but it just seems wrong when a fighter takes those many shots and also a punch right after the butt and get to have a no contest. I see Campbell's point of view, but he should have took a knee or something and tell the ref that he couldn't see.

              It's also very frustrating like the rest of you said.
              Great Post kid


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              • !! Shawn
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                #37
                Originally posted by warp1432
                I'm not calling Campbell a quitter, but it just seems wrong when a fighter takes those many shots and also a punch right after the butt and get to have a no contest. I see Campbell's point of view, but he should have took a knee or something and tell the ref that he couldn't see.

                It's also very frustrating like the rest of you said.
                He complained the ref several times, the ref did nothing. If Campbell took a knee, all that would have happened is the ref would have ruled it a knock down.

                He did the right thing. Survive the round, and let his corner figure things out.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by warp1432
                  Campbell was getting pounded in round 3. I don't care if he was blocking or sliping some of them, the majority of the round he was eating leather. Then after getting hurt in the last 20 seconds, he went back into the corner claiming he couldn't see.

                  You don't think Campbell isn't smart enough to hold on and tell him that he couldn't see? He was tried to fight on and then got caught and was getting overwhelmed. The fact he went all of the round is enough for me.

                  Speaking of which, even if the cut was caused by a butt, it was still probably worsened by the shots Bradley landed, so that should count for something.

                  Campbell was hurt in the last 20 seconds and then went back to the corner and claimed he couldn't see. He was looking for a no contest, he even said so himself.
                  Campbell it seemed had his wits about him when the round ended. Yes Bradley was going for the KO and it looked wonderful but again the butt brought about the flurry at the end of the round.

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                  • !! Shawn
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by warp1432
                    Campbell was getting pounded in round 3. I don't care if he was blocking or sliping some of them, the majority of the round he was eating leather. Then after getting hurt in the last 20 seconds, he went back into the corner claiming he couldn't see.

                    You don't think Campbell isn't smart enough to hold on and tell him that he couldn't see? He was tried to fight on and then got caught and was getting overwhelmed. The fact he went all of the round is enough for me.

                    Speaking of which, even if the cut was caused by a butt, it was still probably worsened by the shots Bradley landed, so that should count for something.

                    Campbell was hurt in the last 20 seconds and then went back to the corner and claimed he couldn't see. He was looking for a no contest, he even said so himself.
                    That would all make sense, if the fight was stopped because of the cut. It wasn't. It was stopped because Nate was seeing spots, and the doctor saw blood INSIDE Nates eyeball.

                    It would also make sense if Nate didn't hold and complain to the ref. He did. He stepped back, complained to the ref. Slipped a flurry. Held, complained to the ref, got hit complained to the ref. Got headbutted AGAIN, complained to the ref, gave up complaining to the ref and fought.
                    Last edited by !! Shawn; 08-02-2009, 12:45 AM.

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                    • warp1432
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      He complained the ref several times, the ref did nothing. If Campbell took a knee, all that would have happened is the ref would have ruled it a knock down.

                      He did the right thing. Survive the round, and let his corner figure things out.
                      How'd he let his corner figure things out when he came back saying he couldn't see? His corner wanted him to tough it out if I remember correctly.

                      He complained to the ref's early, but I don't know why. Nate Campbell has always had problems with headbutts. He leans in with his head. He did it against Diaz, Funeka, tonight, and other times. That's just apart of his style. It's like Clottey.

                      Still he only complained once in round 3 to the ref.

                      Also the ref's angle is justified imo. There was a headbutt, but right after the headbutt, there was a right uppercut directly after (which could have caused the cut too). He had a good look at it.

                      Do you have a picture of the cut by the way?

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