Notice: Nate Campbell WAS in the fight.

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  • !! Shawn
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    Notice: Nate Campbell WAS in the fight.

    There are a couple of points that need to be clarified.

    1) Nate Campbell didn't quit; the doctor stopped the fight.

    Seriously... a head butt can effect your vision in more than one way. The doctor saw blood BEHIND (meaning inside) Nate's eye. This is indicative of a torn retina, as were Nate's described symptoms - seeing spots.

    Nate never said, "I can't go on; stop the fight." The doctor asked him if he could see, and he said he saw spots. The doctor is there to protect the fighters health, but he can't do his job if a fighter lies to him about the symptoms he is experiencing. Are you suggesting Nate lie to the doctor about a situation that could not only end his career, but permanently rob him of his eyesight?

    2) Nate Campbell was in the fight.

    I know this one is going to be hard for most of you, since you have never actually fought; its okay, there are some things you have to step in the ring to understand.

    Now I am not saying Nate was winning, because he wasn't, but he was putting in work that would have paid dividends later in the fight; heres were actual ring experience comes in.

    As most of you know, Nate is one the few true oldschool ring tacticians we have in the sport, and he was putting all of his knowledge to good use. He was harassing Bradley in the clinches.

    What do I mean by this? He was using subtle moves to prevent Bradley from resting. Tapping him in the face, putting weight on him, checking his balance, subtle things to drain Bradley's tank.

    Tapping him in the face, big deal right? Yes. It causes you to tense up, and not breath properly. You can't tell if the tap will be a tap, or a hard shot, and it really takes it out of you tensing up for every one of them.

    Most of you seem to have been impressed by Bradley's speed, and I admit he is really damn quick, but quick doesn't matter when you still can't land flush. Nate's defense was very effective tonight, and if you watch the replays, seldom if ever does Bradley land a flush clean shot.

    All of Bradleys good work came AFTER the headbutt. All credit to Bradley for pouring it on after the headbutt, it was the right decision. However, Campbell still managed to block slip and roll with nearly all of Bradley's shots.

    Granted, Bradley did buzz him pretty good, but in all fairness Nate couldn't see at that point, and there is little doubt in my mind that Nate wouldn't have been hit by the punch would the headbutt not have impaired his vision.

    3) Nate didn't look old and slow:

    Nate has never been a fast fighter. His hand speed has always been fairly average. His strength is his accuracy, length, and intelligence. Nate simply looked slower than normal because he was in with a fighter that is faster than normal.

    His reflexes looked the same as they always have. His defense was just as good as it has always been, and his timing appeared to be just as good as it has always been.

    What you saw tonight was a great young fighter in Bradley making things very difficult in the ring. His speed in combinations made it very difficult for Nate to counter between punches.

    None of this means that Nate would have won the fight, but Nate was nowhere near as out of the fight as many posters on the site have indicated.

    Up until the point of the headbutt, the fight was a very tactically close fight.
  • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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    #2
    Hard to dispute that shawn!

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    • skyler
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      #3
      And being it was only the 3rd round.. with 9 rounds to go Campbell could of easily worked hes way back into the fight.

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      • Sox8055
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        #4
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        There are a couple of points that need to be clarified.

        1) Nate Campbell didn't quit; the doctor stopped the fight.

        Seriously... a head butt can effect your vision in more than one way. The doctor saw blood BEHIND (meaning inside) Nate's eye. This is indicative of a torn retina, as were Nate's described symptoms - seeing spots.

        Nate never said, "I can't go on; stop the fight." The doctor asked him if he could see, and he said he saw spots. The doctor is there to protect the fighters health, but he can't do his job if a fighter lies to him about the symptoms he is experiencing. Are you suggesting Nate lie to the doctor about a situation that could not only end his career, but permanently rob him of his eyesight?

        2) Nate Campbell was in the fight.

        I know this one is going to be hard for most of you, since you have never actually fought; its okay, there are some things you have to step in the ring to understand.

        Now I am not saying Nate was winning, because he wasn't, but he was putting in work that would have paid dividends later in the fight; heres were actual ring experience comes in.

        As most of you know, Nate is one the few true oldschool ring tacticians we have in the sport, and he was putting all of his knowledge to good use. He was harassing Bradley in the clinches.

        What do I mean by this? He was using subtle moves to prevent Bradley from resting. Tapping him in the face, putting weight on him, checking his balance, subtle things to drain Bradley's tank.

        Tapping him in the face, big deal right? Yes. It causes you to tense up, and not breath properly. You can't tell if the tap will be a tap, or a hard shot, and it really takes it out of you tensing up for every one of them.

        Most of you seem to have been impressed by Bradley's speed, and I admit he is really damn quick, but quick doesn't matter when you still can't land flush. Nate's defense was very effective tonight, and if you watch the replays, seldom if ever does Bradley land a flush clean shot.

        All of Bradleys good work came AFTER the headbutt. All credit to Bradley for pouring it on after the headbutt, it was the right decision. However, Campbell still managed to block slip and roll with nearly all of Bradley's shots.

        Granted, Bradley did buzz him pretty good, but in all fairness Nate couldn't see at that point, and there is little doubt in my mind that Nate wouldn't have been hit by the punch would the headbutt not have impaired his vision.

        3) Nate didn't look old and slow:

        Nate has never been a fast fighter. His hand speed has always been fairly average. His strength is his accuracy, length, and intelligence. Nate simply looked slower than normal because he was in with a fighter that is faster than normal.

        His reflexes looked the same as they always have. His defense was just as good as it has always been, and his timing appeared to be just as good as it has always been.

        What you saw tonight was a great young fighter in Bradley making things very difficult in the ring. His speed in combinations made it very difficult for Nate to counter between punches.

        None of this means that Nate would have won the fight, but Nate was nowhere near as out of the fight as many posters on the site have indicated.

        Up until the point of the headbutt, the fight was a very tactically close fight.
        Most posters on here wont recognize this. However tensing up does suck the air and energy out of you. It's happened to me while sparring, and I put in serious roadwork. However Tense+Stress, makes you use up your energy.

        Nate was taking Campbell's shots and Am tired of these freaking headbutts. They always make it a bad fight and screw it all up.

        First Clottey vs Cotto and now Nate vs Bradley...

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        • Crazylegs77
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          #5
          I agree with our comments. Nate was in the fight and it was starting to get interesting for me since Bradley was seemingly punching himself out by trying to KO Nate. Funeka was doing well early if I remember correctly then Nate came on.

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          • ßringer
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            #6
            You're beginning to sound like John Scully with all of you talk about "I know you've never actually boxed before" stuff.

            Not saying I agree, or disagree.

            But it's just a matter of time before you really start sounding like John.....

            I know it's hard for a pathetic limp **** like you to grasp this because you've never boxed in your entire life. Unlike me.

            I boxed professionally, you know that, right? Well, I did. And I was damn good at it, much better than you could've ever been. You should stick to your computer chair like you belong ; boxing is for real me like me, not ***** armchair boys like you.

            Buy my book.

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            • !! Shawn
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              #7
              Originally posted by skyler
              And being it was only the 3rd round.. with 9 rounds to go Campbell could of easily worked hes way back into the fight.
              We really don't know what has strategy was. He could have gone into the fight with the idea of baiting Bradley into burning himself out early. If that was his plan, he was doing very well, because even had the fight gone on, Bradley would have worn down given the amount of energy he expended in the 3rd round. That is reminiscent of how Taylor doomed himself against Pavlik in the 2nd.

              It is certainly possible that Nate would have been the stronger man at the end of the fight, but given how physically strong Bradley was, I doubt it.

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              • letsgobrady
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                #8
                i thought nate won the 2nd round and i also thought the majority of bradley's punches were not landing

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                • warp1432
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                  #9
                  I only agree with number 3, but he went back to the corner admittely and cried "I COULDN'T SEE I COULDN'T SEE"

                  And the doctor asked if he couldn't see and campbell said "yeah"

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                  • keepthemhandsup
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    You're beginning to sound like John Scully with all of you talk about "I know you've never actually boxed before" stuff.

                    Not saying I agree, or disagree.

                    But it's just a matter of time before you really start sounding like John.....
                    damn did john say that

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