Roach: "Pacquiao Doesn't Need Cotto Without The Belt"

[Osirus022]

why do people keep saying its arum and roach and the rest of the pac goon squad that is trying to make it a title fight. all of you are morons its pac greedy ***** ass that wants this to be a title fight.what else could pac want he already getting paid more then cotto and he got cotto at a bs catchweight man this **** is getting real ****** real quick. rember morons at the end of the day pac has the last say.pac is the one giving them the okay to say he wants a title fight.

U are right!! Plus Freddie has no saying, he is only his trainer, though ppl here just post their opinions and express how they feel

[prsi]

The reason why they wanted Cotto to come down in weight is to make the fight closer to Manny's actual weightclass, which I would argue is 135, or maybe even 140 now.

Disagree,
If that was the case they would had mad DLH come closer to 140 also but they knew that he would be weak enoough by coming down to 147

They want Cotto to come down to 143 to have him weaker come fight night same as DLH coming down from 154 to 147.
Pacman's weight class currently is 140. Remember the years have gone by and it's natural for a bodymass to grow with the years don't matter how much you train. I really doubt that it will be easy for Pacman to make 135 again and be at his best.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

its like this if they wanted to fight for the title why not fight at 147 the weight were cotto fought and defended it at? They should just have said it in the first place when they agreed for it to be a title fight not agree to a non title fight and then come with some bs after and b!tch because the titles not on the line IDK how u can defend that ***** move by roach and company

the 145 catchweight was put in as to put on somewhat of a speed bump as to how much cotto rehydrates.

vs otkay urkal he rehydrated to 159 FREAKING POUNDS. That was 2007 when he was fresher & younger. How much do you think he rehydrates now that he's 2 years older & more miles on the odometer?

pac is gonna be 147/48 on fight night going up against a middleweight?

career feather with one fight at 135,140,& 147 trying to ask for a catchweight at 145, one less pound cotto; a career 140/147 pounder, weighed in his last fight?

Who's the the ***** here?

Cotto not wanting to put up the title, IMO is more of him wanting more money or have them pay the sanc fees. It doesnt really make sense for him not to put up the title when the fight is under welterweight.

just look at his choices, wbo has already made it clear they want the title to be on the line. it wont be up to cotto. his only choice is whether or not he pays the sanc fees or not.

Cotto has no play here. he moving down 1 pound the bigger guy, pac the smaller guy moving up 5 pounds.

Cotto will have to concede eventually if he wants the pac fight.

[Osirus022]

of course dumb dip **** i can see pac saying that he cant be that ****ing retarted if he wants to run for president. i dont give a **** if i seen him or not weather you like it or not he has the last say in the deal. if he doest he really is a ****ing ******.

Oh, Co Sign, you made him your b*tch

[dans]

This thread is insane.

[Beater_of_ass]

I'm still clueless as to people see Cotto being in the wrong here. He signed the contract for 145 no title, but then Roach/Pac or some dumbass says the title has to be on the line after Cotto signed the contract. Roach then says he wants Manny to fight for something... well what exactly did you fight for in the DLH fight? Legacy? Money? Both probably and the same will happen if he beats Cotto, as it will put all aside any "but's" that came after Manny's wins over DLH and Hatton. Instead, we have this garbage and people seem to think fighting for title within its entire weight limit is somehow "wrong" or being a *****.

I'm sorry, but Cotto never said he wouldn't fight Paq, he just has two stipulations. 147 for the title or 145 without, its not that difficult. Isn't Paq getting more money, didn't he ask for and GOT a catchweight, he also picked the date and he also picked the place which, to be fair, should be in Las Vegas and nowhere else. Point is the division is 141-147, so Manny can come in at 145 if he wants, but Cotto should be allowed to come in at 147 if the title is on the line. I think the problem is that Roach thinks Manny is the bigger draw, which may be true, however, Cotto is more than likely the second biggest draw in boxing right now and he knows it and won't be pushed around.

[capicu21]

Here we go Pac is bitching again...

[Osirus022]

the 145 catchweight was put in as to put on somewhat of a speed bump as to how much cotto rehydrates.

vs otkay urkal he rehydrated to 159 FREAKING POUNDS. That was 2007 when he was fresher & younger. How much do you think he rehydrates now that he's 2 years older & more miles on the odometer?

pac is gonna be 147/48 on fight night going up against a middleweight?

career feather with one fight at 135,140,& 147 trying to ask for a catchweight at 145, one less pound cotto; a career 140/147 pounder, weighed in his last fight?

Who's the the ***** here?

Cotto not wanting to put up the title, IMO is more of him wanting more money or have them pay the sanc fees. It doesnt really make sense for him not to put up the title when the fight is under welterweight.

just look at his choices, wbo has already made it clear they want the title to be on the line. it wont be up to cotto. his only choice is whether or not he pays the sanc fees or not.

Cotto has no play here. he moving down 1 pound the bigger guy, pac the smaller guy moving up 5 pounds.

Cotto will have to concede eventually if he wants the pac fight.

Then tell ur lil man Pac if he is a career smaller person to stay wit the smaller ppl. Simple as that.

[capicu21]

If he want the title so bad ok the weight is ok but give Cotto 50/50...He wants everything next thing they gona said is to Cotto fight with 1 hand...bitches

[UnDeniable]

I'm still clueless as to people see Cotto being in the wrong here. He signed the contract for 145 no title, but then Roach/Pac or some dumbass says the title has to be on the line after Cotto signed the contract. Roach then says he wants Manny to fight for something... well what exactly did you fight for in the DLH fight? Legacy? Money? Both probably and the same will happen if he beats Cotto, as it will put all aside any "but's" that came after Manny's wins over DLH and Hatton. Instead, we have this garbage and people seem to think fighting for title within its entire weight limit is somehow "wrong" or being a *****.

I'm sorry, but Cotto never said he wouldn't fight Paq, he just has two stipulations. 147 for the title or 145 without, its not that difficult. Isn't Paq getting more money, didn't he ask for and GOT a catchweight, he also picked the date and he also picked the place which, to be fair, should be in Las Vegas and nowhere else. Point is the division is 141-147, so Manny can come in at 145 if he wants, but Cotto should be allowed to come in at 147 if the title is on the line. I think the problem is that Roach thinks Manny is the bigger draw, which may be true, however, Cotto is more than likely the second biggest draw in boxing right now and he knows it and won't be pushed around.

LOL @ Cotto being the 2nd biggest draw in boxing, Manny deserves his split of 65% and the weight

He's the main man and the only time he won't get over 60% is if he fights Floyd