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  • Originally posted by BoBeTs View Post
    darn! here we go again... infairnes to cotto, he should make a stand about it...


    so who's to blame now, gacal (i hate this greedy mothofaker) or arum (for announcing earlier)? lol
    Pacquiao is the one to blame,everyone else is an employee and does what pacquioa wants.These are Pacuiaos values we are seeing and it's not the first time this has happened

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    • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
      Cotto agreed on a fight with Manny at 145. Manny wannted Cotto to come to him at 140. Cotto said no. Cotto wanted Manny to come to 147 LIMIT Pac said no...OK lets meet in the Middle! YES and YES! Both agreed. Shouldnt be a problem unless Cotto knows he will lose this fight. If he were confident in his self nothing would stop him from taking on or out the best P4P fighter in the world. INSTEAD he wants to risk losing his biggest PAYDAY and a shot of being sprung through the P4P rankings for some belt that was a gift to him anyway. Not to smart or CHICKEN ****? All over two LBS...Dont go back on your word now Cotto you agreed to fight...shouldnt be a reason unless you know you will lose. For you ******ed Cotto fans READ two or three times until you understand it. REMEMBER COTTO ALREADY AGREED TO FIGHT AT 145...WHY CHANGE YOUR MIND NOW????? OVER A STRAP YOU DIDNT EARN???
      CHICKEN **** MOVE!!!!

      What you failed to say, is the they agree no title was at stake.

      So if they both agree like you said to fight at 145 and no title, whats the problem with Manny?

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      • Originally posted by pac-boy View Post
        cotto agreed on a fight with manny at 145. Manny wannted cotto to come to him at 140. Cotto said no. Cotto wanted manny to come to 147 limit pac said no...ok lets meet in the middle! Yes and yes! Both agreed. Shouldnt be a problem unless cotto knows he will lose this fight. If he were confident in his self nothing would stop him from taking on or out the best p4p fighter in the world. Instead he wants to risk losing his biggest payday and a shot of being sprung through the p4p rankings for some belt that was a gift to him anyway. Not to smart or chicken ****? All over two lbs...dont go back on your word now cotto you agreed to fight...shouldnt be a reason unless you know you will lose. For you ******ed cotto fans read two or three times until you understand it. Remember cotto already agreed to fight at 145...why change your mind now????? Over a strap you didnt earn???
        Chicken **** move!!!!
        if pacquiao is so confident, then he should go up the 2lbs for the belt. And pacman already agrred to a fight at 145 without a belt! So why change your mind now manny? Is it because u fugazy!!

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        • the fighters should pay the fees with dirty bobs cut of the money. if cotto delivers the belt to the wbo then he delivers a cancellation of the fight. bob tricked both of them and i support both fighters on their stance. cotto can fight mosley and pac can get the jmm-mayweather winner.

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          • Originally posted by dans01234 View Post
            Which would make Manny's 7 division accomplishment even more meaningless. If that's how you Pac fans like it, then by all means. I just figured Manny was a fearless fighter and wanted to beat the best at their best. The last few months I have begun to question this assertion.
            manny is brave, but not ******.....
            we all know that manny is really small for cotto, hence the 2 lbs concession.
            cotto wholeheartedly agreed to 145, he knows he won't be wt-drained.
            cotto is a natural welter and can be 15 lbs heavier than manny on fytnyt.
            145 is still within welterwt....
            wbo will gladly proclaim manny the new champ if he wins....and $150k richer(wbo)!

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            • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
              Cotto agreed on a fight with Manny at 145. Manny wannted Cotto to come to him at 140. Cotto said no. Cotto wanted Manny to come to 147 LIMIT Pac said no...OK lets meet in the Middle! YES and YES! Both agreed. Shouldnt be a problem unless Cotto knows he will lose this fight. If he were confident in his self nothing would stop him from taking on or out the best P4P fighter in the world. INSTEAD he wants to risk losing his biggest PAYDAY and a shot of being sprung through the P4P rankings for some belt that was a gift to him anyway. Not to smart or CHICKEN ****? All over two LBS...Dont go back on your word now Cotto you agreed to fight...shouldnt be a reason unless you know you will lose. For you ******ed Cotto fans READ two or three times until you understand it. REMEMBER COTTO ALREADY AGREED TO FIGHT AT 145...WHY CHANGE YOUR MIND NOW????? OVER A STRAP YOU DIDNT EARN???
              CHICKEN **** MOVE!!!!
              If Pacquiao is confident, why not fight at the WW limit if he wants a WW belt? If the idea is for Manny to be a 7 division champion, why not fight in the 7th division. Last time I checked 145 isn't a division. It's a weight that Cotto agreed to come down to in order to make the fight happen. As far as I can see Cotto has done everything to make this fight happen and Roach and Co. have done everything to disadvantage Cotto and capitalize off of their new found stardom.

              Manny Pacquiao is no *****, but surely Freddie Roach is.

              They agreed to a 145 non-title fight. End of story. If Pacquiao's team doesn't want that anymore, they'll have to deal with the consequences.

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              • Originally posted by lcheezy View Post
                141-147 is welterweight period so the belt should be on the line. Again 141 and over and 147 limit and less is welterweight,period. Pacs legacy is at stake.the belt should be on the line. I don't think manny can hurt or beat cotto but i don't blame him for his stance.this is dirty bobs fault.
                true, but there is also a stipulation in the contract to where he can't go over 145. So if you really wanta ww fight, then allow your opponent to weight the ww limit!

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                • Originally posted by jetgeomcx View Post
                  cotto already said that he will deliver the belt to wbo...he will not oay $150K.
                  Cotto said if Pac wants the title it has to be at 147, and if the WBO wants he more tan gladly will vacat teh title.

                  By the way, WBO wont like that, because they will lose thee 400K that Cotto is supose to pay for this title fight.

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                  • Originally posted by lcheezy View Post
                    141-147 is welterweight period so the belt should be on the line. again 141 and over and 147 limit and less is welterweight,period. pacs legacy is at stake.the belt should be on the line. i don't think manny can hurt or beat cotto but i don't blame him for his stance.this is dirty bobs fault.
                    Man you are so dull and I'm surprised you can read.

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                    • Originally posted by zeidrich View Post
                      this fight should be canceled, diva`s dont have a right to get a big paycheck
                      mosley got more balls and guts and he is #1 WW so he should get a pac fight not cotto the diva
                      Mosley, lost to Cotto! lol if the fight doesn't happen Manny the Diva will have to go eat more duck and chicken fetus' till the winner of Mayweather vs Marquez comes up, and even then it not guaranteed they will fight. Mayweather will want a bigger split, want it at 147, and Arum will not want the fight. And if Marquez wins he will not take the split cotto is taking because he just beat PBF, and top rank and golden boy are getting heated again over the ortiz remarks, so they will deal hardball and not accomodate manny's diva esque ways either.... This is really Manny's only choice to recieve one big payday before being sent to retirement, Cotto....

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