Just to clarify things up..... Floyd still holds the lineal title at 147.

[IMDAZED]

Because Wladmir more or less cleaned out the heavyweight divison Ring made him the champ at that weight.


But had Lewis come back from retirment before that, he still would have held his lineage.




I cant find no rules, this is basic common sense i thought. This is why boxing experts kept saying that lewis needs to come back to settle a new lineage.


I gurantee if Floyd beats JMM, he'll be the champion at 147 on the Ring website.

What does the Ring mag have to do with lineal??? WTF??

Man, you're so confused it's impossible to have a debate with you.

Furthermore, you made up this premise. Please provide proof (as others have done) that this is how the lineal title works. Why is this so hard?

[oc9979]

Tito moved up. Floyds likely to stay and fight at 147. His next fight with Marquez is a welterweight fight.


Hence he's come back at the weight where he left his lineage and still keeps it.

yes but you said that the only way to lose the "lineal championship" is to be defeated by someone at you division. but not you are changing the rules

[starjammer]

Why is the Ring 147 championship vacant? Because no one has beaten Floyd at 147 to take his lineal title away from him.

I gurantee if Floyd beats JMM, he'll be the champion at 147 on the Ring website.

But you told me the ring championship was not the same as the lineal championship. You said it right here - >

Dont get confused with being the Lineal champ and being the ring no1 champ.

[boxasmash]

i guess this means..

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lennox lewis is the heavyweight champion of the world!!!!

[IMDAZED]

i guess this means..

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lennox lewis is the heavyweight champion of the world!!!!

No, Rocky Marciano is.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

So if Floyd retires in 2 fights without losing at ww then comes back 10 years later he is still lineal champ at 147 by your logic?

[Ishy Aytan]

What does the Ring mag have to do with lineal??? WTF??

Man, you're so confused it's impossible to have a debate with you.

Furthermore, you made up this premise. Please provide proof (as others have done) that this is how the lineal title works. Why is this so hard?

The Ring champion is said to be the lineal champion. Marquez is the Ring champion because he beat Casamayor, this is where he got his lineage. Pac beats Hatton and becomes the Ring champ, this is where he gets his lineage.


The Ring champion is usually the lineal champ, unless a new lineage is set.

[oc9979]

So although he retired, because he retired undefeated at the weight he still held the lineal crown. After Baldo, he didnt lose the title.

So now he's back again, he still is the official lineal champ at the weight even though he has'nt fought for almost 18 months or so.



Just thought i'd clarify this up. So although Mosley is the no1 at 147 at the moment, he'd have to beat Floyd to get the lineal crown.

Tito moved up. Floyds likely to stay and fight at 147. His next fight with Marquez is a welterweight fight.


Hence he's come back at the weight where he left his lineage and still keeps it.

???????????????

[Ishy Aytan]

So if Floyd retires in 2 fights without losing at ww then comes back 10 years later he is still lineal champ at 147 by your logic?

No because a new lineage would have been set by then.

[IMDAZED]

The Ring champion is said to be the lineal champion. Marquez is the Ring champion because he beat Casamayor, this is where he got his lineage. Pac beats Hatton and becomes the Ring champ, this is where he gets his lineage.


The Ring champion is usually the lineal champ, unless a new lineage is set.

The Ring Champion is NOT the lineal champ and even if it "usually" is (what a crock of bull**** - just give up!) it still isn't the standard we go by.

NEXT!