Margarito Says The Weight Will Hurt Cotto With Pacquiao

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  • JACK D. RIPPER
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    #111
    Originally posted by R.Winky Wright
    A i'm not an assclown i have a valid opinion... please stick to the topic and don't make it personal.

    All i have to say is Cotto in every other fight that he has been in NEVER looked that disfigured or bleeding that much he was controlling the fight till round 6 or so and wasn't getting caught with allot of bombs...then all you see from then on out him getting ripped to pieces in a few rounds after that...the same time it took for plaster to harden... Marg has got a good chin but he KO's bums and then expects huge paydays with p4p's in his division. he's getting there not by fighting the best his record is a bunch of bums... he has losses to Paul and Shane and then a suspect win over Cotto and beat Joshua Clottey, a one handed fighter, over 12 rounds... weaaaaaaaak! Your telling me with all that KO power he can't KO Clotty, dude's got one hand...

    Cotto's face looked like **** against Judah too. And Clottey. As for why Tony didn't k.o Clottey. Well, he had a sprained ankle, he had a hurt hand himself, and tell me when you've ever seen anyone and I mean anyone, come even remotely close to even knocking Clottey out.
    Doesn't happen.
    Tony beat Cotto fair and square. If it helps you PRicans sleep better at night believing he cheated then have at it. It still doesn't change anything.

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    • Ravishing
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      #112
      Originally posted by Jay Em Em
      Yeah, if you're predisposed to disliking him to begin with I guess your built in bias would make it seem clear as day.

      Bottom line. Plaster gets you banned for life. The CSAC has never had a case against him. If they did, and they let him come back this soon, it would be their ass. The fact that they are, means they got nothing.

      Just like I've always maintained. There was never any plaster. Richardson is the culprit here for talking ****.

      Thats whats clear as day.
      Where in the rule book does it say a fighter is automatically banned for life? That is always up to the commission to decide depending on the severity. In this case, they obviously found something in his wraps, but they couldn't pin more on him because he didn't technically use it in the Mosley fight. If it was a simple mistake on Nazeem's part it would've been thrown out the window as quick as it was made mention of on the telecast. They didn't go through court proceedings just off a hunch, that had PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

      You can downplay it all you want, but the reality is Margarito indeed tried to cheat and his own damn trainer was apologizing for the incident, but now all of a sudden he doesn't know what he's talking about either? LOL...ok there Pancho.

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      • Osirus022
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        #113
        The only thing i would agree with Margacheato... But we all know that already. Stay outta boxing cheater

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        • JACK D. RIPPER
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          #114
          Originally posted by Ravishing
          Where in the rule book does it say a fighter is automatically banned for life? That is always up to the commission to decide depending on the severity. In this case, they obviously found something in his wraps, but they couldn't pin more on him because he didn't technically use it in the Mosley fight. If it was a simple mistake on Nazeem's part it would've been thrown out the window as quick as it was made mention of on the telecast. They didn't go through court proceedings just off a hunch, that had PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

          You can downplay it all you want, but the reality is Margarito indeed tried to cheat and his own damn trainer was apologizing for the incident, but now all of a sudden he doesn't know what he's talking about either? LOL...ok there Pancho.
          The precedent has already been set in the Panama Lewis case. CSAC had nothing but hand cream elements. He'll be back soon. All Capetillo apologized for was not knowing that training pads weren't legal. Training pads are an infraction under CSAC rules. And the fact that he'll be back this soon prove that all he was guilty of was an infraction.

          Capetillo should also be reinstated, he did nothing wrong. An infraction shouldn't take away a man's ability to make a living.

          Bottom line, he'll be back. And that proves there was no plaster. If the CSAC allowed him to come back knowing he loaded it would be career suicide.
          Since when does a bureaucrat relinquish a cushy job???

          I rest my case.

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          • Aracibo04
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            #115
            Originally posted by crillz
            whether he knew it or not it's pretty much undeniable the ****er cheated, he doesn't cause the kind of damage he did to Cotto on his own, Cotto has been hit harder and it didn't rip his flesh so badly. look up how Billy Collins looked and compare the wounds to Cotto's and you'll see how a man that doesn't his THAT hard can cause such ugly damage, I'd post a pic of both to compare but I truly don't know how.. Margarito IMO used the wraps on Cintron twice, Cotto and tried with Mosley. honestly it's too tough to call on Williams, Santos and Clottey because he wasn't as dominant, those fighters fought coming forward and that's how you beat Tony so it speaks for itself, Clottey fought a defensive fight later on but he was engaging the combat early on while he was winning, Cotto simply fought backwards the whole time and that's the wrong plan and when you consider the plaster in his wraps it's understandable how that outcome happened, Cotto basically trained himself for that fight and when he goes into the ring the man he was facing had ****in cast plaster in his hand wraps, to me it isn't even opinion it's a very solid fact, I'm not the kind of person that you need to prove the obvious to so **** this prick cheater and his opinion, he shouldn't be allowed to fight again on TV for those actions, he could have killed Cotto and for that he doesn't belong in the ring just like Luisito Resto whom whether friend or foe what he did was assault, he was a TRUE man though and he confessed his guilt, fear didn't let him do it before but his integrity caught up with him and he did the right thingunlike this cheating ****... **** Antonio Margarito man I used to have so much ****in respect for this guy.
            IMO... there is no point in trying to tell detractors that one does not need conclusive evidence to know if someone commited a crime.
            It seems that these people have no malice because they are fooling themselves by saying there is no proof.
            WTF they think everything is so black and white... Why would he used plaster against mosley ( proof ) who lost against cotto?

            I guess if their gf is cheating on them they have to catch her with the dudes **** in her ass to belive it.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Jay Em Em
              The precedent has already been set in the Panama Lewis case. CSAC had nothing but hand cream elements. He'll be back soon. All Capetillo apologized for was not knowing that training pads weren't legal. Training pads are an infraction under CSAC rules. And the fact that he'll be back this soon prove that all he was guilty of was an infraction.

              Capetillo should also be reinstated, he did nothing wrong. An infraction shouldn't take away a man's ability to make a living.

              Bottom line, he'll be back. And that proves there was no plaster. If the CSAC allowed him to come back knowing he loaded it would be career suicide.
              Since when does a bureaucrat relinquish a cushy job???

              I rest my case.
              Tell that to Barrera and other mexican boxers who turned their back on Margarito... So what you said about cream is a misstatement of facts. If thats all they found why would the boxers mentioned have negative things to say about margarito and capetillo? Every criminal says their innocent even after convicted. Ever visit someone in jail?

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              • Ravishing
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                #117
                Originally posted by Jay Em Em
                The precedent has already been set in the Panama Lewis case. CSAC had nothing but hand cream elements. He'll be back soon. All Capetillo apologized for was not knowing that training pads weren't legal. Training pads are an infraction under CSAC rules. And the fact that he'll be back this soon prove that all he was guilty of was an infraction.

                Capetillo should also be reinstated, he did nothing wrong. An infraction shouldn't take away a man's ability to make a living.

                Bottom line, he'll be back. And that proves there was no plaster. If the CSAC allowed him to come back knowing he loaded it would be career suicide.
                Since when does a bureaucrat relinquish a cushy job???

                I rest my case.
                It's a pipe dream dude...wishful thinking on your part, but a pipe dream at the end of the day.

                You forget that the commission has to reinstate his license which considering the circumstances isn't going to be the easiest thing for him to do. That could take weeks let alone months. YOU maybe looking at it as Margarito is the innocent, WOE is me victim...but the rest of the 99.9% of people who actually see it for what it is don't.

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                • rod_serrs
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Jay Em Em
                  The precedent has already been set in the Panama Lewis case. CSAC had nothing but hand cream elements. He'll be back soon. All Capetillo apologized for was not knowing that training pads weren't legal. Training pads are an infraction under CSAC rules. And the fact that he'll be back this soon prove that all he was guilty of was an infraction.

                  Capetillo should also be reinstated, he did nothing wrong. An infraction shouldn't take away a man's ability to make a living.

                  Bottom line, he'll be back. And that proves there was no plaster. If the CSAC allowed him to come back knowing he loaded it would be career suicide.
                  Since when does a bureaucrat relinquish a cushy job???

                  I rest my case.
                  Capetillo will not be back and I can guarantee this. However, Margarito in my opinion will be back. If I recall correctly they had deemed Capetillo guilty and only punished Margarito because a boxer is supposed to be the locker room leader and supposed to be aware of these things. The fact that Margarito was unaware of what was happening is fishy to most boxing fans as well. As far as the parrallel between Lewis and Capetillo go there are significant differences. Most importantly that Lewis was caught after the fight, after his boxer drastically altered Collin's life. If he were caught after the fight like Lewis the punishment would have been significantly worse like a lifetime ban. In addition Lewis also altered the boxing gloves of his fighter and not just the wraps like in Margarito's case.

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                  • JACK D. RIPPER
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Ravishing
                    It's a pipe dream dude...wishful thinking on your part, but a pipe dream at the end of the day.

                    You forget that the commission has to reinstate his license which considering the circumstances isn't going to be the easiest thing for him to do. That could take weeks let alone months. YOU maybe looking at it as Margarito is the innocent, WOE is me victim...but the rest of the 99.9% of people who actually see it for what it is don't.
                    Most people are lemmings who don't know ****. As evidenced by the ignorance that permeates this thread.

                    I take being in the minority here as a badge of honor.

                    He'll be back soon and there's nothing you or any of these crybabies on here can do about it.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                      Why does Paul Williams look like this then? 12 round fight mind you.




                      Also, how does plaster harden with no oxygen? If it is continuously wet(sweaty hands) and gets little to no air(gauze directly over hands and taped down gloves). How can it harden?
                      That picture was not after the Margo fight, that was after the CQ (2) fight. I for one do not belive that Margo cheated against Cotto, and only attempted to cheat against Mosley.

                      I must add though, Paul williams face was ****ed up after the Margo fight...Mainly his left side.

                      The post fight interview with Williams on youtube, shows the damage.
                      Last edited by HandSpeed303; 07-05-2009, 11:47 AM.

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