Pacquiao-Cotto Being Pushed By WBO as Title Bout

[oc9979]

i just cant believe wbo is pushing it for pacman but the ibf did not do anything for clottey vs cotto fight

[theAleph]

There are hard and fast rules, which were changed many years ago for the sake of the health of the boxers. The current rules are "All Boxers must weigh-in not less than 24 hours or more than 36 hours before the commencement of a tournament." In the past the weigh in took place on the same day, and it was thought that this contributed to many injuries and some deaths, which was why the rule was changed. Whether they were right to change it or not is still controversial, though, but that's a subject for a separate thread.

If the sanctioning bodies make the rule, and if they say a fight at 145 is considered a welterweight fight, there shouldn't be any argument right? I mean, that is your point, if I understood you correctly. You're saying rules are rules. That our personal bias and subjective interpretation of sanctioning bodies' rule have no place here.

So, if the sanctioning bodies say a 145 fight is a welter fight and should be for a belt, then there really should be argument against that just as there shouldn't be any argument against day-before weigh ins. That is the rule, the sanctioning bodies have stated so. Like you said. Until, of course, they decide to change the rules again.

[versatech]

Bottomline
It's ok for cotto to weigh more than the ww limit come fight night. but it's not ok if he weigh in less than the ww limit a day before? LOL! all in the effort to discredit PAC!!! go!go!go! Haters! go!

[Ministopped]

Welterweights are 147 not a catch weight. Some of you are probably going to say well they can fight under the limit. What makes this NOT a welterweight fight are the terms of the fight. If it were a true welterweight fight then Cotto could weigh in at 147. It is amazing how many people are on here talking like it should be for the welterweight title when they have no clue of what it is to fight for the title. Last time I checked there was no belt for 144 or 145 lbs.

Obviously you're not so bright and doesn't know anything about boxing at all. It's not like this is the first time that a WW championship is being fought at 145ibs because Chavez Sr. and Whitaker did it before. Anything above 140 and below 147 is a welterweight fight right? And if its at 145 then it should be Cotto's advantage so what are you so worried about? He should be able to manhandle Pac at that weight since he's the bigger and the stronger guy.

[Dave Rado]

If the sanctioning bodies make the rule, and if they say a fight at 145 is considered a welterweight fight, there shouldn't be any argument right? I mean, that is your point, if I understood you correctly. You're saying rules are rules. That our personal bias and subjective interpretation of sanctioning bodies' rule have no place here.

So, if the sanctioning bodies say a 145 fight is a welter fight and should be for a belt, then there really should be argument against that just as there shouldn't be any argument against day-before weigh ins. That is the rule, the sanctioning bodies have stated so. Like you said. Until, of course, they decide to change the rules again.

I'm saying that if you want to call yourself the world champion you shouldn't need or even want to change the normal rules of boxing for a single fight, by specifying a different maximum weight in the contract from the normal one, in the hope of gaining some advantage from doing so.

If the sanctioning body decides to allow it, that's up to them, but they wouldn't have to even consider whether to allow it or not if it weren't for the fact that it's outside the normal rules of boxing. And I'm saying that it would be far better for Pac's legacy if he didn't do that, because whether you like it or not, there will always be an asterisk in many people's minds over whether it was really a legitimate world title fight, and that those who argue that a couple of pounds won't affect the outcome of this fight should turn that argument around. If a couple of pounds won't affect the outcome of the fight, then it is clearly in Pacquiao's interests for the maximum weight for the fight to be set at 147, because that would shut all the doubters up, remove any possibility of an asterisk being put on the title he won, and put him up there with the Henry Armstrongs and the Sugar Ray Robinsons if he wins.

And there's all the difference in the world between changing the rules thirty years ago for all fights, in order to protect the health of all fighters, and changing the maximum weight rules just for a single fight, in the hope of giving one of the fighters a slight advantage. It's been done before, but it was criticised those times as well.

[versatech]

Obviously you're not so bright and doesn't know anything about boxing at all. It's not like this is the first time that a WW championship is being fought at 145ibs because Chavez Sr. and Whitaker did it before. Anything above 140 and below 147 is a welterweight fight right? And if its at 145 then it should be Cotto's advantage so what are you so worried about? He should be able to manhandle Pac at that weight since he's the bigger and the stronger guy.

Good point!
But i don't think haters can comprehend, they don't care if everyone else have done it before, all they care is about is discrediting PAC!
Cotto will already outweigh PAC by 10+ come fight day what more can you ask for!

[whirlwind]

Team Pac proposed and wants it at 142-143 which is has been rejected by Cotto. Cotto said we he wants it at 145 or no fight. Cotto fans I will ask you. Who wants it at 145? If Cotto sign the contract there will be no excuses as he knows he can beat Pac by size alone. Let the fight begin!

[versatech]

. And I'm saying that it would be far better for Pac's legacy if he didn't do that, because whether you like it or not, there will always be an asterisk in many people's minds over whether it was really a legitimate world title fight, and that those who argue that a couple of pounds won't affect the outcome of this fight should turn that argument around. If a couple of pounds won't affect the outcome of the fight, then it is clearly in Pacquiao's interests for the maximum weight for the fight to be set at 147, because that would shut all the doubters up, remove any possibility of an asterisk being put on the title he won, and put him up there with the Henry Armstrongs and the Sugar Ray Robinsons if he wins.

How can it affect someones legacy if he's fighting a guy 10+ lbs heavier than himself during the fight?and your opponent publicly announced his willing to go @145? obviously, cotto is more reasonable than some people on this forum, he knows already he will greatly outweigh PAC no matter what,so measly 1-2lbs won't matter just for the purpose leveling the playing field a bit by losing a pound during weigh-in.

[vitali1999]

Strawwieght

Contact or no contract, this is a Welterwieght vs a lightwieght, no matter how you slice it. Cotto is a naturally bigger man, so if he wins big ****en deal, it's what he should have done against smaller man, if Pac wins only adds to his greatness, but not in my eyes, cause i see this a an easy win for him, now a Pac win over Mayweather is much bigger, like going in a time machine to 1990 and wupping Chavez ass.

[archermac X]

If the fight is for the WW, then have to be at 147 lbs limits stipulated by boxing organization, otherwise if a fight is at 145 lbs should be no WW championship bout.

For the tens of uninformed posters on this board, and not just for this poster, the TITLE fight between Bernard Hopkins and Oscar de la Hoya for the UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP of the world was contracted at 158 lbs. Now, anybody tell me that was not a TRUE CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT!??

Here's something better. I dare anyone here to cite any objection being made by anyone in the world at that time or at anytime, why that fight was sanctioned as a TITLE FIGHT by all the governing bodies when it was NOT made at the MIDDLEWEIGHT LIMIT of 160 lbs. Go ahead, ANYONE, I'll wait....