Roach's Weight Demand Could Collapse Pacquiao vs. Cotto

[prsi]

When/where did Pacman himself called out Cotto? Got any link? It think it was Arum who called/wanted to make the fight to happen if I'm correct. Pacman just fights to whomever his promoter puts him into. Regardless, I want to see this fight as long as both parties are comfortable as they choose to sign to take this fight. Lets get it on.

War Pac!

Here's you link, and true that Arum wanted the fight also and i have said it before, but the promoter can give you some options to choose from and the boxer along with his manager determine whoevere they want from the list. They actually can recomend fighters that the would like to fight if they are not in the list. Boxers with the standing of Pacquiao don't have to fight whoever the promoter brings to the table. Pacquiao stayed quite about fighting Pacquiao even when Arum was trying to sell the fight before Cotto had even fought Clottey. It was until after the Clottey fight that Pacquiao started to call out Cotto which indicates that he probably noticed vulnerability in Cotto's boxing skills.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=20444

[bestboxingonly]

Based on that, I can't really say hes calling out Cotto. I believe though that Arum offered this fight to him, so obviously he has to accept it as it is the most lucrative offer on the table.

[guzi815]

Yeah, bring on Pacquiao vs. Vitali Klitschko.

Yo that's some funny stuff man! LMAO!!!!

[sportsplato]

In a perfect world, EVERYBODY would tell Pac to shove that "Catchweight" up his azz if he wants to fight for the WW Championship of the World. All of Pac's big money options are at 147, so he would have to buckle. Roach is trying to get Pac to make everyone weight drain due to the fact that most WW are 154 and up on fight night. How about they just have a same day weigh-in to prevent the fighters from blowing up to much? I know why! Because then Pac can't blow up either!

If it is at a Catchweight, then it shouldn't be for the Belt. Ring, WBO, IBO or any otherwise.

I like Pac but these antics taint, and take away, from the fight. If he doesn't want to fight the big boys like as a big boy, then stay at 140 and fight down there!

[jetgeomcx]

Asking his opponent to come in at less than 100% is not a fair fight. It's equivalent to asking him to come in with one arm tied behind his back. If Freddie doesn't think Manny can beat top Welterweights at Welterweight, he should defend the lineal title he has just won against the top fighters in his own division.

Mosley didn't ask De La Hoya to come in at catchweight when they fought. Manny has just comprehensively destroyed the #1 rated Jnr Welterweight, and he looked stronger and more powerful than Hatton. There's no reason or historical precedent for saying he couldn't be competitive just one weight division higher.

one arm tied?? now don't you think that is too much of an analogy??
another division higher?? have you forgotten that ww is manny's 10th division from where he started??

i for one wants manny to fyt at 147 to solidify his ATG status.
but i cannot argue against him fyting at a reasonable catchweight of 144 if he feels really treatened at 147.
i can only wish him well and finish the fyt with all his faculties in tact.

and why would you think cotto is not in his best if he fyts at 144??
if cotto signs the contract, then we can assume that he is at his best come fyt nyt!!
otherwise he is ******, really ******.........

[jetgeomcx]

If Pacquiao is not confident enough to fight welterweights at their natrual weight then he should keep his ass at 140. There are plenty of fights to be made there. But this attempt to weight drain Cotto and other top weltweights is shameful and deserves no respect.

look, team pacquiao is asking cotto to drop down a bit in weight.
it is quite obvious that cotto is much bigger than manny.
why would anyone conclude that cotto will come weight drained if he agrees toa catchweight.
give cotto his due respect, he is not that ****** to sign a contract that will make him weight drained come fyt nyt.
he's got his team and management to decide on that....not the cottofans and pachaters!!

manny wants a ww because of the 7th(or 6th) belt that goes with it...not to mention the big pay.
who in jww can give the same $$$$.
whoever is in manny's shoes ryt now will take the same path...more glory and honor.

i wish and hope that floyd will man up to fyt manny at 143, for all the marbles there is!!

[jetgeomcx]

143 is not Cotto's natrual weight for a fight. That would be a serious disadvantage not to mention unhealthy. No matter how much he "rehydrates" the damage will have been done. That takes it's toll on the body. Cotto has to work very hard just to make 147. Your rationalizations are ridiculous. I'm not saying that to be "unfriendy." Those are facts. If Pacquiao can't fight top welterweights at their natrual weight then he should stay the hell out of the division.

you only think of cotto...how about manny.
147 is never manny's natural fyting weight.
he will weigh in at 143 and fyt at 148.
cotto will fyt at 160!!!
the argument that manny should fyt at 140 if he cant squarely face a ww won't wash to manny and arum.
nobody at jww can bring even 60% of what they can generate if manny fyts at ww....catchweigh is part of the "negotiations"

why would cotto cannot fyt at 142 when mosley is willing to go that low?!?
analogous to "why manny fought oscar at 147, but not cotto?"

[FLY TY]

i thought the purpose of this fight being made was b/c arum said, "it'd be easier to make than a shane or mayweather fight....."

shane has admitted he'd come down to 144, AND give pacman his 60/40 split......

get it done.

[BigDozer260]

These are the tactics of the great Freddy Roach and Manny Pacquiao, make sure the fighter comes in at the biggest disadvantage possible to ensure victory. Wow I'm glad people are starting to see this picture very clearly now. Pacman is a fighter, a real fighter and he's willing to take the risk necessary, but his trainer is trying to ensure that he doesn't take an "L", and that's called protecting. Some one in an earlier post said that he should remain as a Jr. Welter if he's scared to fight full blown welter without having them come in damn near crippled. Personally if you want to fight, the big boys then you have to be able to take the heat. You don't see 6'6" Wladamir coming down to a catch weight of 232lbs to be closer to smaller heavyweights, then why should it happen here. They should kill all this catch weight nonsense and either fight in your own weight class or make the full jump to the next class, or lower class. In other words quit all the bs and just "effing" fight.

[madsweeney]

In a perfect world, EVERYBODY would tell Pac to shove that "Catchweight" up his azz if he wants to fight for the WW Championship of the World. All of Pac's big money options are at 147, so he would have to buckle. Roach is trying to get Pac to make everyone weight drain due to the fact that most WW are 154 and up on fight night. How about they just have a same day weigh-in to prevent the fighters from blowing up to much? I know why! Because then Pac can't blow up either!

If it is at a Catchweight, then it shouldn't be for the Belt. Ring, WBO, IBO or any otherwise.

I like Pac but these antics taint, and take away, from the fight. If he doesn't want to fight the big boys like as a big boy, then stay at 140 and fight down there!

Pac "blows-up" to 147-148 so a same day weigh in @ 147 wouldn't hurt him in the least.