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    #41
    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
    You can't call anybody racist.

    You stated the Black supremecists have arrived EXPLAIN THAT.
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    Originally posted by Little Killer
    Above 147, skills matter. You can get KO'd easier. That is why Mexicans don't do well above 147. Margarito is never going to fight at 154 again. Mexicans need size advantage

    ]You may be on to something, first face brawling would get you killed at those weights.
    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
    This thread is ******ed..there are plenty ****ed-up punch drunk mexicans.
    like? You obviously posses this information so please share with us. And why are you so angry son? You know, sex with a female can relieve that tension.
    Last edited by 2501; 05-27-2009, 08:49 PM.

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    • Little Killer
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      #42
      Why did you quote me like as if I said something wrong. Fighting without a defence at the higher weights is NOT a smart idea

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      • Steak
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        #43
        putting this Mexican business aside, even if you look at guys like George Chuvalo, Jake LaMotta and Carmen Basilio, they still sound great and their brains seems to function jsut fine, and theyre old as hell. ok well they dont sound great, but Basilio in particular is old as hell and is no worse off than any other man his age.

        and all of those guys took sick amounts of head punishment at times in their career, and werent that well known for their head movement(although LaMottas defensive ability was underrated)
        its because they knew how to tense up for the punches, imo.

        then look some guys who were defensively oriented, and they get much more easily brain damaged. at least thats what it seems like.

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        • joseph5620
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          #44
          Originally posted by 2501
          Punch drunkenness. Of course, fighters with the typical brawling or agressive style burn out quicker.

          Can someone give me any examples of any mexican legends or fighters who sound punch drunk or show effects of their careers?
          Bobby Chacon is in bad shape. But it has nothing to do with ethnicity. It has to do with the individual and how it affects them. Goarge Chuvalo took massive punishment without going down but his mind is razor sharp and he shows no effects.

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          • Deja_Vous
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            #45
            Originally posted by 2501
            like? You obviously posses this information so please share with us. And why are you so angry son? You know, sex with a female can relieve that tension.
            A mexican was killed in the ring a few months ago..another died after a fight.

            Zak Padilla collapsed after sparring Shane Mosley and needed his skull opened.

            Vargas is punchy..

            Chacon is fried.

            Oscar sounded punchy after the forbes fight.

            I bet there are many fighters down mexico way that are punch-drunk.

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            • Heru
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              #46
              Originally posted by KnockoutTheFat
              It's funny how slick-type fighters like Whitaker and Wilfred Benitez are punch drunk while people who weren't exactly defensive whizzes like George Chuvalo, George Foreman speak fine. I never understood that.
              IMO it has a lot to do with the way you treat your body and layoffs. The first 2 you mention were certified coke addicts that loved liquor and partying (btw, Benitez isn't just punch drunk, he has certified dementia). Chuvalo and Foreman are fighters that while they were fighting stayed in shape. It must have something to do with genetics too cuz I'm pretty sure Mosley doesn't treat his body like ****.

              With top fighters not staying in shape and treating their body like **** for 6 months in between fights you might be seeing a lot more of it.

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              • joseph5620
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                #47
                Originally posted by raycorey
                Yep, For some reason alot of African-american fighter seem to end up slurring there words or sound punch drunk, Even Joe frazier sounds like that, Ken norton who i listen to in an interview recently sound pretty much punch drunk as well.
                If funny because you would expect someone like Duran or Erik Morales to sound like that.
                Ken Norton's speech is affected because of a horrible car accident that nearly took his life.

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                • Deja_Vous
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                  IMO it has a lot to do with the way you treat your body and layoffs. The first 2 you mention were certified coke addicts that loved liquor and partying (btw, Benitez isn't just punch drunk, he has certified dementia). Chuvalo and Foreman are fighters that while they were fighting stayed in shape. It must have something to do with genetics too cuz I'm pretty sure Mosley doesn't treat his body like ****.

                  With top fighters not staying in shape and treating their body like **** for 6 months in between fights you might be seeing a lot more of it.
                  Shane's nose is screwed-up..that's why he talks like that..he's far from punchy.


                  He says he's having it fixed when he retires.

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                  • ßringer
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ShalafiV.2
                    The hate for Mexicans on these forums is beyond human comprehension.
                    ******s are ******s, bro.

                    Only a real moron wouldn't appreciate and respect (not to mention enjoy) watching Mexicans goto work in the ring.

                    Some of the **** I've read around here has been totally ignorant, racist ****.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by raycorey
                      Yep, For some reason alot of African-american fighter seem to end up slurring there words or sound punch drunk, Even Joe frazier sounds like that, Ken norton who i listen to in an interview recently sound pretty much punch drunk as well.

                      If funny because you would expect someone like Duran or Erik Morales to sound like that.
                      One punch from a HW >>> 100 punches from Lightweights

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