For having such a violent, agressive style, Mexican fights don't show too much...

[Steak]

One punch from a HW >>> 100 punches from Lightweights

ah, thats baloney.
Pipino Cuevas used to spar heavyweights, and outpunched them.

I myself hit harder than most 230+ guys, at least from the silly unskilled boxing I do with friends occasionally.
Im not a lightweight, but still
a flush punch from a good lightweight puncher>a grazing punch from your average heavyweight

[2501]

A mexican was killed in the ring a few months ago..another died after a fight.

Zak Padilla collapsed after sparring Shane Mosley and needed his skull opened.

Vargas is punchy..

Chacon is fried.

Oscar sounded punchy after the forbes fight.

I bet there are many fighters down mexico way that are punch-drunk.

So you're saying Mexicans have the highest death rate in boxing? Because your posts seems like its indicating that Mexicans make up the largest figure fatalities. That would be the only reason you're stating it or you would just be listing irrelevant occurrences.

Still, you don't even address the thread. Please list all the punch drunk Mexican fighters. And stop trying to make this a Mexican vs. African thread.

[Little Killer]

ah, thats baloney.
Pipino Cuevas used to spar heavyweights, and outpunched them.

I myself hit harder than most 230+ guys, at least from the silly unskilled boxing I do with friends occasionally.

a flush punch from a good lightweight puncher>a grazing punch from your average heavyweight

What type of heavyweights did he spar with, ***ing bums maybe.

How much you weigh??? And how exactly do you know you hit harder than 230+ guys.


Grazing punch from HW >>> 10 flush shots from a LW

[Little Killer]

Deaths in boxing
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October 22, 2008

MEXICO CITY, Mexico, Oct. 22, 2008 .- The death of Daniel Aguillón in a fight for the championship Fecarbox, in the featherweight division, another great boxer to the list of fatalities in the history of boxing.
It is estimated that nearly 600 boxers are those who have lost their lives on the ring.
The list includes Ernie Schaaf boxers like that in February 1933 fell victim to the blows of Primo Carnera. There was still a huge backlog in medical care after a NOCAUT.
Great boxers have experienced the misfortune of beating to death his rivals, as Sugar Ray Robinson, who Knockout in June 1947, Jimmy Doyle to take the life.
Mexican boxers have also been involved in such accidents, as when he beat Lupe Pintor in 12 episodes to the Welshman Johnny Owen, who left his life two days later at a hospital in Los Angeles, California.
UltimÃ*nio Ramos faced Davie Moore in March 1963, a fight was very tough, but Ramos was able to subdue Moore, who returned to his corner stand, but he was carrying a fatal injury.
On November 29, 1985, Gerardo “Dracula” Derbez died after being noqueado by Jorge Vaca in six episodes, in fight for the national title Welter.
Another Mexican involved in this type of accident was the Jalisco Gabriel Ruelas, who removed his life to the Colombian Jimmy Garcia, in the fight for the title superpluma of the World Boxing Council, on May 6, 1995.
Francis “Kiko” Bejines, joined the list of boxers casualties in the ring after being noqueado in 12 rounds by Alberto Davila. That was Sept. 1, 1983, when the crown was in dispute global weight Gallo …
In more recent times, another victim was the Panamanian Pedro “ROCK ‘reach, who died a day after being noqueado in 6 rounds by the Mexican Fernando Montiel, Supermosca champion of the OMB, in Las Vegas on June 22, 2002.
The first of July 2005, Havana’s Martin the “Firefighter” Sanchez lost his life after being noqueado in 9 rounds in Las Vegas by Russian Rustam Nugaev a fight in 10 rounds.
The Federal District has recorded very few deaths in the ring.
The first was the June 4 1936 when Paco Sotelo was killed at the hands of Jesus Najera, the second in September 1953, when Jesus Morales died product of the beatings of Roy Hernandez.
Now, Daniel is the latest victim Aguillón above the ring.
This is the dark side of one of the oldest sports, which has been criticized, demonized and adored in the battle of man against man himself.

[jpitt]

Shane's nose is screwed-up..that's why he talks like that..he's far from punchy.


He says he's having it fixed when he retires.

C'mon man. The nose might be the reason his voice sounds the way it does but it aint the reason the words don't flow as easily anymore.

[Steak]

What type of heavyweights did he spar with, ***ing bums maybe.

How much you weigh??? And how exactly do you know you hit harder than 230+ guys.


Grazing punch from HW >>> 10 flush shots from a LW

well, I weigh about 155 or so, and my punches seem to have a lot more effect than most people who weigh 200+.

I have no idea who Cuevas sparred with, but they were heavyweights, and you werent specific when you mentioned heavyweights, were you?

and why is it that a Reggie Johnson at 160lbs was able to stun and hurt James Toney, but the hardest(or 2nd hardest) puncher at heavyweight couldnt put him on the floor?
flush punches makes a huge difference.

Im not saying that an average punch from a lightweight is as strong as an average punch from a heavyweight or anything ridiculous, but a full powered flush shot from a lightweight definately hurts more than a grazing shot from an average heavyweight

[Deja_Vous]

So you're saying Mexicans have the highest death rate in boxing? Because your posts seems like its indicating that Mexicans make up the largest figure fatalities. That would be the only reason you're stating it or you would just be listing irrelevant occurrences.

Still, you don't even address the thread. Please list all the punch drunk Mexican fighters. And stop trying to make this a Mexican vs. African thread.

I said no such thing as mexicans have the highest death rate in boxing..I don't know what corner of your ass you pulled that from.

I just pointed out that mexicans get punchy..killed..and ****ed-up just like all fighters.

Evidently you didn't know that.

[Little Killer]

well, I weigh about 155 or so, and my punches seem to have a lot more effect than most people who weigh 200+.

I have no idea who Cuevas sparred with, but they were heavyweights, and you werent specific when you mentioned heavyweights, were you?

and why is it that a Reggie Johnson at 160lbs was able to stun and hurt James Toney, but the hardest(or 2nd hardest) puncher at heavyweight couldnt put him on the floor?
flush punches makes a huge difference.

Im not saying that an average punch from a lightweight is as strong as an average punch from a heavyweight or anything ridiculous, but a full powered flush shot from a lightweight definately hurts more than a grazing shot from an average heavyweight

You my friend simply don't live in reality. Your sorry ass punches doesn't have more effect than a 200+ fighters. That is common sense.

James Toney was knocked down by Peters jab for Christ sake,

A full power full for a LW is not even 1/10th punch of a grazing shot from a heavyweight. That is common sense. I would rather get a shot from Duran then a grazing shot from a HW

[Deja_Vous]

you my friend simply don't live in reality. Your sorry ass punches doesn't have more effect than a 200+ fighters. That is common sense.

James toney was knocked down by peters jab for christ sake,

a full power full for a lw is not even 1/10th punch of a grazing shot from a heavyweight. That is common sense. I would rather get a shot from duran then a grazing shot from a hw

lol......!

[Steak]

You my friend simply don't live in reality. Your sorry ass punches doesn't have more effect than a 200+ fighters. That is common sense.

James Toney was knocked down by Peters jab for Christ sake,

A full power full for a LW is not even 1/10th punch of a grazing shot from a heavyweight. That is common sense. I would rather get a shot from Duran then a grazing shot from a HW

thats ridiculous. are you trying to tell me that Joe Frazer doesnt hit as hard as Valuev? Valuev weighs about 120lbs more than Frazier did.

weight doesnt matter as much as some people think, although it obviously cant be ignored either.

and Toney was off balance from the jab, and not hurt in the least. Toney took all of Peter's hardest shots in the first fight, and was only momentarily shaken.
not nearly as hurt as when he got knocked down by Reggie Johnson