Floyd Mayweather jr = Terrell Owens of Boxing

[Vasyl’s dad]

Who says his 0 has anything to do with his mindset , Hatton was supposed to be too strong with too much pressure it was the most hotly disputed fight on the web in any forum for years , ODH Floyd gave away 14 pounds , both fighters were risks big ones , JMM took Pac to the wire yet is no risk too Floyd coming back after 2 years , come on ,, Floyd is fighting elite fighters and if Pac is man of the moment how can Floyd be dogged for fighting JMM it just dont make sense , Pac can fight Floyds scraps but Floyd cant fight Pacs even though many people think JMM beat Pac ,,, when you lay it all out on paper I just dont see what ya beef is.

Thats his biggest claim to greatness in his own words..

[RodBarker]

For being 53, you're not too wise. Maybe you're really only about 15.

JMM has not beat anyone of note above 135 to be considered in the same mix. He had problems with Diaz before knocking him out.

Floyd is afraid of the challenges and you're going to have to deal with it.

Your talking about wisdom and you dont know difference between weigh-in 135 and fight time 144 , thats JMM ,,,, what did Casa and Diaz weigh on the night ? here is some wisdom for you , I will bet every point you ever get in here that they both fighters stepped into the ring over 140 pounds probably close to 147 and remember they both got stopped by JMM , cant deny the facts no matter how much ignorance you wrap it in .

Im not interested in you dehydrated weight when we are talking how big a fighter is , Im interested in the weight they fight at , not the day before .

[Vasyl’s dad]

Your talking about wisdom and you dont know difference between weigh-in 135 and fight time 144 , thats JMM ,,,, what did Casa and Diaz weigh on the night ? here is some wisdom for you , I will bet every point you ever get in here that they both fighters stepped into the ring over 140 pounds probably close to 147 and remember they both got stopped by JMM , cant deny the facts no matter how much ignorance you wrap it in .

Im not interested in you dehydrated weight when we are talking how big a fighter is , Im interested in the weight they fight at , not the day before .

Heres some wisdom for you,

Floyd is the ex champion at 147,

and doesn't want to face the champion of today at that same weight.

So he goes after the 135 pound champion.


Nobody cared about the weights of the fighters until Floyd stans such as yourself made it an issue.


You, just like Mayweather are a clown and make nothing but excuses.

[RodBarker]

Heres some wisdom for you,

Floyd is the ex champion at 147,

and doesn't want to face the champion of today at that same weight.

So he goes after the 135 pound champion.


Nobody cared about the weights of the fighters until Floyd stans such as yourself made it an issue.


You, just like Mayweather are a clown and make nothing but excuses.

So you stick to the same dehydrate weight bull**** because you dont understand or even care that a fighters true size is in the fight , your happy to say one fighters that drys out like a prune is a smaller fighter than the one that dont , not only is that so illogical , then to bolster you argument and just disregard the weight they actually fight at , think about that , lol its ***en insane just writing it in a debate about size ,,, your not a reporter mate quoting figures about something your editor threw at you , your supposed to a boxing fan with a knowledge of the sport ,,

HOW CAN ANYBODY DISREGARD THE ACTUAL WEIGHT THEY FIGHT AT WHEN DISCUSSING TRUE SIZE OF A FIGHTER ,,, its madness , that is their true size !

[Vasyl’s dad]

So you stick to the same dehydrate weight bull**** because you dont understand or even care that a fighters true size is in the fight , your happy to say one fighters that drys out like a prune is a smaller fighter than the one that dont , not only is that so illogical , then to bolster you argument and just disregard the weight they actually fight at , think about that , lol its ***en insane just writing it in a debate about size ,,, your not a reporter mate quoting figures about something your editor threw at you , your supposed to a boxing fan with a knowledge of the sport ,,

HOW CAN ANYBODY DISREGARD THE ACTUAL WEIGHT THEY FIGHT AT WHEN DISCUSSING TRUE SIZE OF A FIGHTER ,,, its madness , that is their true size !

The fighters don't care,

why do you?





I'll tell you why,


because Floyd simply isn't as great as hes claimed to be,

or else he would have already beaten Margarito, Cotto and Mosley and solidified his position in history as well.


Seeing as he says he can beat them pretty easily,

I don't see what the problem is.


However, we know stans like you cling to his balls even when he contradicts himself time and time again.


"Mosley has 5 losses"

Marquez has 4 and a draw.

Can you detail what exactly is the difference between those two?

No, you can't, but I can.

Mosley is a much bigger threat, literally and figuratively.



I love it though. Dude could have made a major impact on his historical standing had he actually beat the above mentioned names, much less face them.


Instead, the longer he goes without fighting anyone relevant in the 147 pound division, you know, the same division in which he was a champion in,


the more he looks like a fraud. I know it, you know it, former Floyd fans know it,

except you stans don't.


If the weight issue was truly dramatic to you,

you wouldn't even watch the sport as many fights have fighters weighing different on fight night.

But you're a hypocrite so you choose when to be righteous in the matter.

[shadeyfizzle]

The fighters don't care,

why do you?





I'll tell you why,


because Floyd simply isn't as great as hes claimed to be,

or else he would have already beaten Margarito, Cotto and Mosley and solidified his position in history as well.


Seeing as he says he can beat them pretty easily,

I don't see what the problem is.


However, we know stans like you cling to his balls even when he contradicts himself time and time again.


"Mosley has 5 losses"

Marquez has 4 and a draw.

Can you detail what exactly is the difference between those two?

No, you can't, but I can.

Mosley is a much bigger threat, literally and figuratively.



I love it though. Dude could have made a major impact on his historical standing had he actually beat the above mentioned names, much less face them.


Instead, the longer he goes without fighting anyone relevant in the 147 pound division, you know, the same division in which he was a champion in,


the more he looks like a fraud. I know it, you know it, former Floyd fans know it,

except you stans don't.


If the weight issue was truly dramatic to you,

you wouldn't even watch the sport as many fights have fighters weighing different on fight night.

But you're a hypocrite so you choose when to be righteous in the matter.

Wow. that was brutal.

[RodBarker]

Wow. that was brutal.

Get real the dude ignores every thing put to him because he has no answers and you another hater goes hurruh ,,,, he got blown out the water with his first comment ,, the fighters dont care why should I ,,, they do care thats as plain as the nose on your face if you open your eyes ,, why do you think the fights can only be made at catchweight , thats proof they care ,,,, thats proof they are fully aware of the weight goings on and what it means !!

,,, its the fools in here that would rather compare them in dried out state the day before its going to be important , everybody in here wants to ignore it because nobody poses the question , yet then they ***** and whine about catch weight fights ,,,, wake up guys as ask your self why do they want catch weight fights , its about evening up a big man and a little man otherwise they would just fight inside the divisions limits in which at the moment with only ones doing it are Pac and Floyd , they fight at 147 thats WW ,,, the others fight at 160 ,,, why do they have catch weights lol .

"Mosley has 5 losses"

Marquez has 4 and a draw.

Can you detail what exactly is the difference between those two?

Its very simple right now there is bigger fish to fry and that fish is at 140 this fight is a process to get there after the lay off , Pac is the first goal and Mosley is not the road to Pac , JMM is ,,
Mosley also had the chance and it didnt suit him so what , it dont suit Floyd right now , Mosley is a stalemate at the moment !!

Instead, the longer he goes without fighting anyone relevant in the 147 pound division, you know, the same division in which he was a champion in,

Who cares about the 147 division , Floyd is whipping everybody around it and he will get to Cotto and Mosley after Pac if those are the fights on the table at the time ,, Floyd is a multi division champion and all you can sing about is one division , Floyd is bigger than one division .

If the weight issue was truly dramatic to you,

you wouldn't even watch the sport as many fights have fighters weighing different on fight night.

But you're a hypocrite so you choose when to be righteous in the matter.

I watch the fights and I evaluate them on what they weigh on the night its a big part of how i judge a fighter , how the *** and you look at fight and not take notice of one giving the other a big advantage , crazy , I stick up for every little guy thats has to give huge weights away , Pac and Floyd are giving unheard of weight to elite fighters and you dimwitts go oh that aint nothing he should fight somebody bigger again , but when he gets a lousy 4 pd you cry , and Im the hypocrite ,, you talk bull**** mate .

[JAB5239]

Muhammad Ali consistently claimed to be the greatest ever. It drove his bar high enough to be impossible to to impress anyone as well. But he took meaningful enough fights that once he achieved. It was really hard to argue against it. At the time many people loathed Ali for his big mouth and brash attitude but his fights spoke for thesmelves and very few could argue against Ali's resume while he was active the way Mayweather sets himself up for scrutiny with his resume.

Well said.

[shadeyfizzle]

Well said.

Thanks. Some people just dont quite get it though.

Talent and skillwise....Mayweather might arguably be better than Ali.

People hated Ali for claiming he was the greatest, and for saying he could whoop Joe Louis. But the man never publicly contradicted himself, was always eager to take on the biggest challenges to prove his greatness and regardless of how much they hate him....every fight he took.....while people may be unhappy with his winning...his greatnes became unquestionable.

Meanwhile with Mayweather it's the absolute opposite. He constantly contradicts himself and with every fight he takes...even in winning against inferior competition his greatness comes into question more and more.

[RodBarker]

Well said.

That is true in hindsight but Ali is over and he fought a lot of no account fights on his way to greatness more than Floyd has fought and Floyd is still going so his legacy is still building , the thing is we are not talking just scrutiny , its full of many double standards and hate for one , and for another he is building his legacy and we dont know what it stands for untill its over and ironicly JMM is a better rounded fighter that anybody Ali fought , look at the idiots posting an ol kenny interview saying Floyd got owned lol he beat every fighter he was supposed to be ducking according to Kenny , the future proved who got owned ,,, and he will do that again now ,,,, Pac is first goal thats not hard to see that heir to his p4p #1 is the first target in Floyds return to boxing .