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  • RodBarker
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    #31
    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
    Double standard whiners??? What double standards??? You act as if Floyd is a victim of circuumstance when he is a victim of his own doing.

    We woudnt be having this discussion if he had just participated in the welterweight tournament that's been going on for the past year and a half in his absence and came out on top since he was a welterweight champion along with Margarito and Cotto, and with Mosley the #2 ranked challenger for his WBC belt.. Then he would be undeniably be the best welterweight on earth and the best fighter on earth. But he didnt. He sat on the sidelines and watched the welterweight division attempt to find an undeniable division king . Then magically he reappears when the dust has settled claiming his place and superiority over them??? Sorry buddy. you wouldnt let that **** fly in your everyday life or workplace. why would you let Floyd get away with it for being a professional athlete?
    Mate the guy has had a life in boxing if he wants a break who gives a hoot he is only human something you forget , its you trying to make his comeback a conspiracy , that axe you have too grind is inspired in you towards Floyd specifically ,, there is your double standed , one only has to read your post history to know your a hater and dont apply your wants to no other fighter in the way you apply them to Floyd .

    and for what !!

    , you always follow propaganda so closely , you have no idea whats going on behind any scenes , all you see is what the media tell you , yet you are so full of negativity and wants like you were sitting at the table , I can never understand how you guys think ,,,,,,, well I can actually WWF is going great guns and they are selling nothing but pure bull**** and hype ,,,, well anyway you should enjoy boxing more than hating on it , while Floyd keeps beating all he fights and keeps fighting elite fighters Im happy for the sport of boxing , and boxing is happy he has decided to fight again ,,,, but you , just whine and ***** ,, but in reality your really not saying nothing in your hate threads but plain ol sour g****s .
    Last edited by RodBarker; 05-23-2009, 01:30 AM.

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    • sandyvahra
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Yea, maybe so. I think they both get way to much heat for ****** meaningless ****. People look to nitpick at both guys and find any flaw then start making a big deal about it.

      People like to make mountains over molehills with both guys~.

      I would say TO did dare to be great because he was no one comming out of college and out achieved those drafted much farther ahead of him through working very hard to hone his skills. Floyd was just as deciated to his craft.


      Floyd is just never going to be the good guy people will not allow it, same for TO they will always be the bad guys.

      I see your point, but not everyone is the same, boxing is better have both good guys and bad guys, if everyone was cookie cutter it would be very boring, I like contrast.
      co-sign, floyd is great for the sport in that sense. but when the bad guy doesn't fight the really good guy, then that becomes detrimental to the sport.

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      • sandyvahra
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        #33
        Originally posted by RodBarker
        Mate the guy has had a life in boxing if he wants a break who gives a hoot he is only human something you forget , its you trying to make his comeback a conspiracy , that axe you have too grind is inspired in you towards Floyd specifically ,, there is your double standed , one only has to read your post history to know your a hater and dont apply your wants to no other fighter in the way you apply them to Floyd .

        and for what !!

        , you always follow propaganda so closely , you have no idea whats going on behind any scenes , all you see is what the media tell you , yet you are so full of negativity and wants like you were sitting at the table , I can never understand how you guys think ,,,,,,, well I can actually WWF is going great guns and they are selling nothing but pure bull**** and hype ,,,, well anyway you should enjoy boxing more than hating on it , while Floyd keeps beating all he fights and keeps fighting elite fighters Im happy for the sport of boxing , and boxing is happy he has decided to fight again ,,,, but you , just whine and ***** ,, but in reality your really not saying nothing in your hate threads but plain ol sour g****s .
        That's where fans of boxing will disagree, a lot.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #34
          Originally posted by sandyvahra
          co-sign, floyd is great for the sport in that sense. but when the bad guy doesn't fight the really good guy, then that becomes detrimental to the sport.
          Well to me I like what Floyd has done with his career, he could have done more to this point but to me that does not take away from what he has actually done.

          I really do not know where his comeback is going to go but I am sure he will fight some quality guys, he really can not avoid them if he wants to make the type of money he is accustomed to making (to me his money options are Mosley,Cotto and Pacman although I doubt he will fight all 3 most likely 2/3). I really do not know where he goes once that list of guys is done hopefully a new challenger will be viable by that point.

          If Floyd actually needs money who knows how long he will stay in the game, I honestly do not think he will get away before he gets beat now.

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            #35
            Originally posted by big_james10
            Yes. Diego Corrales at 130. Jose Luis Castille at 135. Baldomir at 147. De La Hoya at 154 at Hatton at 140. But I am sure you consider David Diaz a much better fighter than all of these guys combined.
            LOL!!!! Castillo and delahoya werent ring champions in their division at the time floyd fought them let alone be on the p4p list. If you wanna play by that logic then Pacquiao has fought 7 ring champions.

            Sasakul at 112, Marco Antonio Barrera at 126, Juan Manuel Marquez at 130, Hatton at 140.

            Oscar delahoya was ring champ at 154, Erik Morales was ring champ at 126 and 130 and Oscar Larios was ring champ at 122.

            Nice try though.

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            • sandyvahra
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              #36
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              Well to me I like what Floyd has done with his career, he could have done more to this point but to me that does not take away from what he has actually done.

              I really do not know where his comeback is going to go but I am sure he will fight some quality guys, he really can not avoid them if he wants to make the type of money he is accustomed to making (to me his money options are Mosley,Cotto and Pacman although I doubt he will fight all 3 most likely 2/3). I really do not know where he goes once that list of guys is done hopefully a new challenger will be viable by that point.

              If Floyd actually needs money who knows how long he will stay in the game, I honestly do not think he will get away before he gets beat now.
              Co-sign. I dont care what anyone says this guy needs a lot of money to support his lifestyle. He's an avid sports gambler & we all know in the long run your losing money. He drops 10,20,30k a game sometimes. That **** adds up fast. I think floyd will fight a lot longer than people think. He might retire/come back again, but he'll be around for awhile, long enough for his first loss. This is when he will start to decline. I honestly believe this is when he will become a lot more humble, fight the best for the biggest money & in all honesty will have a lot of people root for him. Call me crazy, but we know he's gonna lose his swagger when he's not on top anymore.

              I think a loss or 2 for Floyd would actually help his legacy in the long run, getting over that 0 and fear of losing it I feel would make floyd even better. A fighter scared to lose for the first time can fight with different mindset/mentality than if he were a fighter who's already lost. And we know boxing is atleast as much mental as physical at the top level.

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              • RodBarker
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                #37
                Originally posted by sandyvahra
                Co-sign. I dont care what anyone says this guy needs a lot of money to support his lifestyle. He's an avid sports gambler & we all know in the long run your losing money. He drops 10,20,30k a game sometimes. That **** adds up fast. I think floyd will fight a lot longer than people think. He might retire/come back again, but he'll be around for awhile, long enough for his first loss. This is when he will start to decline. I honestly believe this is when he will become a lot more humble, fight the best for the biggest money & in all honesty will have a lot of people root for him. Call me crazy, but we know he's gonna lose his swagger when he's not on top anymore.

                I think a loss or 2 for Floyd would actually help his legacy in the long run, getting over that 0 and fear of losing it I feel would make floyd even better. A fighter scared to lose for the first time can fight with different mindset/mentality than if he were a fighter who's already lost. And we know boxing is atleast as much mental as physical at the top level.
                Who says his 0 has anything to do with his mindset , Hatton was supposed to be too strong with too much pressure it was the most hotly disputed fight on the web in any forum for years , ODH Floyd gave away 14 pounds , both fighters were risks big ones , JMM took Pac to the wire yet is no risk too Floyd coming back after 2 years , come on ,, Floyd is fighting elite fighters and if Pac is man of the moment how can Floyd be dogged for fighting JMM it just dont make sense , Pac can fight Floyds scraps but Floyd cant fight Pacs even though many people think JMM beat Pac ,,, when you lay it all out on paper I just dont see what ya beef is.

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by vaborikua
                  hey atleast terrell owens played against the best didnt make up an excuse not to play against them

                  T.O. didn't have a chance to line up his own opponents though.

                  Even then, I don't think T.O. is the type of person to back down from a challenge.

                  We all know Floyd is.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RodBarker
                    The dude cant fight everyone , who ever he fights you lot will ***** and whine , if its Cotto the Mosley floggers will be saying he is ducking Shane same thing the other way , if its Pac he is ducking the other 2 and if its JMM he is ducking all off them ,,, he cant win not matter who it is ,,, so what does his management do they say to the haters , *** you , we do what we want to balance the books and when your on top thats the luxury off being on top , thats two books just in case you lot dont realize , the bank book and the legacy book ,,,,,, Floyd fights elite fighters and always has and he aint been beat yet you picked Hatton to be too strong and pressure flog him , you picked ODH to be just too dam big and punch too hard , it doesnt matter what he does the haters will always cry so , *** you haters he does it his way ,,, nothing in this world that is bull**** or fake will last very long so Floyd has gotta being doing something right ,,,,

                    JMM has great credentials to fight Floyd and is one of the best fighters in the world today p4p#2 actually and this a top fight ,,, and if Pac is in the mix with everybody well so is JMM , if JMM jumped and said I want Pac its all ok ,

                    Bunch of double standard whingers , that hurts boxing more that supports it , proofs in the pudding boys if Pac and Floyd are in the mix so is JMM .
                    For being 53, you're not too wise. Maybe you're really only about 15.

                    JMM has not beat anyone of note above 135 to be considered in the same mix. He had problems with Diaz before knocking him out.

                    Floyd is afraid of the challenges and you're going to have to deal with it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by El Jesus
                      You are telling me something i already said, you are practically paraphrasing me



                      Again, you keep talking about "track record", now i want to know again, what other fighter other winky wright, did floyd mayweather openly state that he had interest in fighting, and then just backed out and didint "take the challange" Im talking about people he said hed fight and then didint do it. Even if you give me an answer, hes back regardless, the only way id say he has a real track record of ducking is if he comes back and only fights once or twice against competition that nobody wanted to see him against.
                      Shane Mosley.

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