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I think the fact that he has spanned multi divisions is better than staying in one I have know doubt he would have dominated any division to 147 where it gets much hard purely because off the size of the opponents , trainers and fighters know it , thats why we have catch weights , its much harder to give weight that it is to receive weight and Floyd has fought giving weight his whole career bar this one and Hatton which both fights are only a few pounds either side of Floyds fighting weight of 147-148 pounds , the point Im making is Floyd is still building and is being shot down by you fellas before its had a chance to say its finished judge it , we dont know if its historically significant untill it becomes history , you guys continue to try and kill it before it happens , every fighter can have a better resume especially if you want to pull it apart before its over , but the facts remain Floyd so far has a very good resume and its about to get better , Pac right now is historically significant and JMM is the right step towards Pac .Comment
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Terrel Owens tears it up everywhere he goes, lol Floyd chooses the teams he performs against. So I don't think that's a fair assessment. At all. If I was Owens, I'd slap the dog **** out of the thread starter...lol but that's just me.Comment
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Was Terrel Owens even drafted? I know he wasn't drafted high, so it is very hard to consider him a disapointment when he most likely out preformed (or is close to it) every WR drafted ahead of him.
He did it himself also learning from Rice and applying those lessons to his own training habbits, TO is a success story.
I think they are both very successful though, so to me they are kind of alike, when I first read this thread I was like you but I thought about it and parallels can be drawn between them.Last edited by The Gambler1981; 05-23-2009, 01:14 PM.Comment
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Moss has had some gnarly injuries and a bad break in oakland where the o-line couldnt buy the qb enough time to get moss the ball to save their lives.
TO has never had any serious injuries in his pro career. He's the type of player that could put a decent team in superbowl contention. He's had great qbs everywhere he's gone...but the teams always seem to be better off after he leaves.Comment
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Do you forget the knee injury he suffered, then somehow recovered to play very well in the Super Bowl when no one was giving him a chance.
No they do not get better Philly was ****ty right after he left, the 49 er's were ****ty after he left, we will see with Dallas~.Comment
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First of all, im a 49er fan, i know all about T.O does and doesnt do. Second of all, i LIVE HERE in oakland. Moss is self admitted to not pushing himself and its obvious, when do you see T.O giving up on plays? When do you see T.O half ass his routes? When do you see T.O openly admitting that right now hes not worried about the game but hes "enjoying life" (moss here in oakland).
Moss also makes NO effort to block as a wideout.
2nd of all, you say teams get better when he leaves O-RLY? Where are my 49ers? We havent been to the playoffs since 2002. Yes, were so much better off. Also T.O helped make garcia into a a great QB, it was a team effort.
Hes had great QBs everywhere hes gone. Hes gone to one team that has had a solidified great QB. When he got here he had steve young, but then after that he had to wait for garcia to get to the speed of the US game before he became decent. He went to philly and helped them get to the superbowl, his selfish antics the next season hurt them, but regardless, after that he went to dallas, whos QB is overrated and erratic in my opinion, hes also incredibly inconsistent. Even JAB will come in here and tell you that. Romo is not a Great QB and hasnt led his team to ANYTHING.
Now lets talk about Moss in oakland. First of all, again, you put all the blame on oaklands O-Line, and NONE of the blame on Kerry Collins, who has ALWAYS been an average QB wherever hes gone, hes had maybe 1 or 2 elite seasons, and im not counting the game managing he did with the titans neither, im talking about new york. Moss admits hes not trying all that hard. Moss basically gave up on that team. It was obvious on the field also. You give excuses to moss because of "injury" thats bull****, he basically gave up on the team, i dont care what hes suffered, he gave up, period. Moss wasted 2 years here, but yet, you give him a pass, thats load of ****, im sorry.
Have the 49ers been to the playoffs since T.O left? NO
Have the eagles been to the superbowl since T.O left? NO
As far as dallas goes, that whole team had the wrong addtitude, as much as id like to blame T.O. T.O did not tear that team apart, that team tore itself apart, dallas had it all, 2 good backs, 3 good wideouts, a good tight end and a halfway decent qb and they still couldnt get in the playoffs.
Lets not forget, the one superbowl randy moss went to, he also lost. T.O and Moss have basically had the same type of career. But yet you blame T.O when it should be the other way around. T.O doesnt give up on routes. T.O blocks. T.O gives his all on the field, and Moss doesnt. But since T.O opens his mouth, thats who you blame. The way you assess that tells me everything i need to know about how you think and how you view things.
Honestly man. I sincerely think you should stick to things pac related.Comment
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