In all honesty, Manny Pacquiao is the face of boxing.

[Mr. Philadel]

Currently, hands down Manny is bringing boxing back into the mainstream. Today I saw high school kids, regular middle aged folk, and even old ass ladies at the mall all talking about "the little Asian guy" (Pacquiao) knocking the hell out of Hatton (not to mention the attention this has been getting from the media). Last time I have seen so many people talking about a fight was when Lewis fought Tyson. Screw the other guys, Pacquiao is the face of boxing now.

True story this:

I took my son (3 yrs old) to one of those kid festivals where its games and rides about 2 weeks ago........this Asian man walked by and my son said "Daddy thats Pacman" .....the dude looked at my son and said "You know Manny?" my son "Yea.....he gonna fight Ricky Hatton......Pacman gonna KNOCK him out!"........they way my son said knock was hard.....he stressed the word KNOCK .......the Asian dude was impressed and felt proud that Manny was so well known.......you don't expect a 3yr old living in Germany to know Manny Pac................unless his dad is the great SekondzOut ........nah but its true.....Manny is the face of the game!

[Vasyl’s dad]

Contrary to other sports like football, basketball, baseball, tennis, golf and soccer; boxing goes beyond stats and records. In tennis, and boxing, there are no teams in the battlefield. It's just you and your opponent, period. So when it comes to recognize the best athletes in each sport, different standards must be taken. For example, in baseball, you can basicly make it to the Hall of Fame in pure stats. But it's not the same to talk about Babe Ruth, Aaron, Nolan Ryan, Roberto Clemente... than to to talk about McGuire, Bonds, Clemmens. One thing is the steroids, but another thing also has to do with your personality, time spent with the same team, at the same town and your relationship with the community. People make "legends" out of the athletes, not the other way around.

But ALL TIME BEST athletes play for glory, a major purpose. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Ali, Pele, Maradona, Duran, Babe Ruth, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, McEnroe, Naratilova, Trevino, Chi Chi Rodriguez, etc... These were great athletes who became legends cause people loved them. (plus stats and accomplishments.)


Nowadays in boxing, fans keep discussing their favotrite boxers and post a lot of stats, accomplishments, and lineal championships. Which is great and obviously adds to the reputation of the fighter. Still, boxing is personal, one-on-one. Just like it takes two teams to make a GREAT Unforgettable SuperBowl, or a Soccer World Cups Finals... In boxing you need two fighters in a MEGA CLASSIC FIGHT.

In boxing is not only your record, your belts, the number of divisions you fought at, lineal champion status... but WHO YOU FOUGHT and WHO YOU DEFEATED. People take for granted numbers without looking deeper in names and match-ups. In boxing to become a legend, you need to be involved in legendary fights. You must had had defeated the best available opponents in each of the weight classes you dominated. It's "ok" to be brought up carefully in your early career, but when the time comes to become a class A fighter, and you must fight the best available opponent. How many times are we going to complaint about the lack of Hagler's, Hearn's, Leonard's, Tyson's, JCC's, Lewis's, Ali's, TiTo's... as long as fighters only think about money, we are not getting legendary fights, and much less a legendary boxer.


Then again, we got a Kobe Bryant, a Dereck Jeter, a Rafael Nadal, a Tiger Woods, a David Beckham, a Roger Federer, a Michael Phelps, and in boxing a Manny Pacquiao. These athletes are bound to be legends, but Manny is going to be the one with the most historical impact. He got everything to be name ONE of the GREATEST. PacMan got stats, achievements, classic matchups, names in "their prime", lineal championships, a huge fan base, love and dedication for the sport, a big family, socially and politically active, and humble enough to be always smiling no matter what.

So no matter who fights Manny Pacquiao next, the main story in boxing will be Pacquiao from now on...

Simply a great post.

[2501]

That is a lie...

damn, man. Do you need a Kleenex to wipe Pac's cum from your lips?

You're the idiot that actually clicked on the link. ha.

[MaFu MoFo]

Simply a great post.

thanks, you are welcome...

[THE REED]

You mean "tails". Learn the language, Leafblower.


I just provided examples of Mayweather's commercial viability. Read the prior post.

Just stick to facts.

Nice, he talks about boxing and makes his point.

You call him a name.



Solid...

[street bully]

Contrary to other sports like football, basketball, baseball, tennis, golf and soccer; boxing goes beyond stats and records. In tennis, and boxing, there are no teams in the battlefield. It's just you and your opponent, period. So when it comes to recognize the best athletes in each sport, different standards must be taken. For example, in baseball, you can basicly make it to the Hall of Fame in pure stats. But it's not the same to talk about Babe Ruth, Aaron, Nolan Ryan, Roberto Clemente... than to to talk about McGuire, Bonds, Clemmens. One thing is the steroids, but another thing also has to do with your personality, time spent with the same team, at the same town and your relationship with the community. People make "legends" out of the athletes, not the other way around.

But ALL TIME BEST athletes play for glory, a major purpose. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Ali, Pele, Maradona, Duran, Babe Ruth, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, McEnroe, Naratilova, Trevino, Chi Chi Rodriguez, etc... These were great athletes who became legends cause people loved them. (plus stats and accomplishments.)


Nowadays in boxing, fans keep discussing their favotrite boxers and post a lot of stats, accomplishments, and lineal championships. Which is great and obviously adds to the reputation of the fighter. Still, boxing is personal, one-on-one. Just like it takes two teams to make a GREAT Unforgettable SuperBowl, or a Soccer World Cups Finals... In boxing you need two fighters in a MEGA CLASSIC FIGHT.

In boxing is not only your record, your belts, the number of divisions you fought at, lineal champion status... but WHO YOU FOUGHT and WHO YOU DEFEATED. People take for granted numbers without looking deeper in names and match-ups. In boxing to become a legend, you need to be involved in legendary fights. You must had had defeated the best available opponents in each of the weight classes you dominated. It's "ok" to be brought up carefully in your early career, but when the time comes to become a class A fighter, and you must fight the best available opponent. How many times are we going to complaint about the lack of Hagler's, Hearn's, Leonard's, Tyson's, JCC's, Lewis's, Ali's, TiTo's... as long as fighters only think about money, we are not getting legendary fights, and much less a legendary boxer.


Then again, we got a Kobe Bryant, a Dereck Jeter, a Rafael Nadal, a Tiger Woods, a David Beckham, a Roger Federer, a Michael Phelps, and in boxing a Manny Pacquiao. These athletes are bound to be legends, but Manny is going to be the one with the most historical impact. He got everything to be name ONE of the GREATEST. PacMan got stats, achievements, classic matchups, names in "their prime", lineal championships, a huge fan base, love and dedication for the sport, a big family, socially and politically active, and humble enough to be always smiling no matter what.

So no matter who fights Manny Pacquiao next, the main story in boxing will be Pacquiao from now on...

Good post man.

Edit. Great Post.

[QUISQUEYA]

lol,

you're only attempt at dealing with reality is correcting my grammar.


again, If Floyd doesn't need an "A" fighter to sell his fights,


then why does he tell potential opponents to get better PPV numbers?

Again: I just provided examples of mayweather's commercial viability.

The reason he (or anyone else) would seek a fighter with a fanbase is obvious: because the purse is shared.

For example, Tony Margarito wanted a fight with mayweather, but TM had just fought ******* Gomez at the Aladdin in a half-empty room. That PPV sold 30K. Yes. Thirty thousand.

Soooo, what is in it for Floyd? Or anyone else? He would essentially be sharing his own income with another fighter for no reason. Just like it benefits you if your wife has a good job. She brings something to the table.

Example: After Zab lost to Baldomir, they reduced his purse from three mil down to one mil. His commercial appeal was reduced.

Another example (because you seem Mexican): If i go and "offer" Oscar Delahoya a fifteen million dollar payday to fight me, what is in it for him? Goldie can make $15 mil fighting ANYONE. He would quickly recognize that I'm just trying to pencil myself in for a payday, while bringing no incrementality.

It's the same as any company that seeks to launch a brand extension. The first analysis is focused around incrementality.


Got that?

[-EX-]

Considering that anyone who knows who ODLH is, has to know that it was Manny Pacquiao who made ODLH say NO MAS Manny is ODLH's daddy and soon may be your boy friends daddy if your honey bunny money G@y can get past Manny's sloppy left overs in Marquez.
:PAZ:

Yea a zombified DLH...

Prime DLH spells trouble for Pac...

[THE REED]

Mafu, BRILLIANT post...

[tunayflip]

[QUOTE=QUISQUEYA;5213645]UCF is a third-tier school. At best. I hope you're not bragging on that. And it's not the slang. It's the series of run-on sentences with a complete absence of punctuation.

Here are a couple more examples:

Floyd fought carlos baldomir. A fighter with absolutely no fanbase. He sold approx 10,000 at the gate, and 340K PPV buys.

Floyd fought zab judah. A guy who couldn't sell out the small room at the Garden in his own hometown. PBF sold out the Thomas & mack Center (15K) and generated about 390K PPV buys.


Now, tell me how Pac did commercially vs. his "B" opposition?



to tell u truthfully i wouldn't know so i m sorry i can't get it all in detail like u but not selling as much as Mayweather who promotes himself doesn't mean he doesn't sell which was what u were sayin all and u keep talkin about how much Mayweather has made which jus doesn't put down how much Manny has made so on straight facts yeah u got me but tell me does that make anything i jus said note true


and to tell u truthfully from where i have come from i am happy that im at ucf all though it is not such an amazing college it is a step up for me which is more than alot of other unfortunate people can say about their lives

sorry if my writing bothers u its just one of those things that i don't see as being that important for a forum