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  • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    i'm pretty sure marquez will get his biggest payday
    Fair enough. I just hope his corner is quick with the towel.

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    • if floyd is hurtin for money, then he should fight mosley instead.

      floyd vs shane is a much bigger fight than marquez.

      Not only is it a mega money fight but also a legacy building fight for floyd.


      Beating marquez only adds more criticism towards floyd.

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      • Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
        floyd is a coward. How do u try to make a fight w/ a career featherweight @147?
        to be fair, floyd spent most of his career at 130.

        He left the game as supposedly the top 147 pounder but he doenst want to fight none of the top welters.
        floyd will probably fight mosley in 2010...

        A lot of floyd supporters say he's really a small welter & he should be at his old division 140. Thats where marquez wants to meet him but he wants it a couple more pounds north.
        marquez says he's willing to fight at 144. give it up.

        I mean meet the guy halfway. floyd is only about 5'8, its not as if he has to kill himself to make 140. He was fighting at 140 3 years ago vs gatti.
        moving back down in weight isn't a good idea see DLH/Pac, RJJ/Tarver I & II, Bryd, etc...

        Grow a pair brah.
        I know it hurts that JMM is gonna lose...

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        • Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
          Fair enough. I just hope his corner is quick with the towel.
          I think jmm might go 12.

          Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
          if floyd is hurtin for money, then he should fight mosley instead.
          1) jmm has a built in fanbase (mexicans) that means he'll bring in more money
          2) jmm is a tune up, mosley aint no tune up.

          floyd vs shane is a much bigger fight than marquez.
          I agree, but shane ain't no tune up

          Not only is it a mega money fight but also a legacy building fight for floyd.
          true, i think floyd/mosley in 2010.

          Beating marquez only adds more criticism towards floyd.
          its just a tune up
          Last edited by Pullcounter; 04-20-2009, 10:23 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            to be fair, floyd spent most of his career at 130.


            floyd will probably fight mosley in 2010...


            marquez says he's willing to fight at 144. give it up.


            moving back down in weight isn't a good idea see DLH/Pac, RJJ/Tarver I & II, Bryd, etc...


            I know it hurts that JMM is gonna lose...
            Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            I think jmm might go 12.


            1) jmm has a built in fanbase (mexicans) that means he'll bring in more money
            2) jmm is a tune up, mosley aint no tune up.


            I agree, but shane ain't no tune up


            true, i think floyd/mosley in 2010.

            Beating marquez only adds more criticism towards floyd.





            i dont care if marquez loses. He will lose. But he wont get dominated like hatton. Looking at floyd's semi above average roster of opponents, i dont see a pure boxer counter punching technician.

            I see a lot of aggresive attacking fighters but no one near the skill set of a juan manuel marquez.

            Theres a reason why floyd chose castillo & corrales instead of acelino freitas & joel casamayor @ 130 & 135.

            Theres a reason why floyd chose bruselles,corley, & gatti instead of kostya tszyzu, mosley, hatton, & cotto @ 140

            & Theres a reason why floyd chose baldomir, judah, & hatton @ 147 instead of cotto, pwilliams, mosley, margarito,clottey,quintana,cintron,or collazo.


            HES A SCARED *****.


            Probably?

            Ill probably be a millionaire if i win the lottery,
            Ill probably be in the NBA if i could play like lebron,

            Probably meet mosley in 2010?

            WTF does that mean?

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            • Originally posted by animalavenue View Post
              Like I said before he was stacking the cards in his favor. Just like PBF is. How is irrelevant. One is not better or more acceptable than the other. Trying to point out the lesser of the two IS cherry-picking.
              I don't understand the idea that the extent to which someone does something doesn't matter, that a little bit of a bad thing is as bad as a lot of a bad thing. That's like saying that Margarito's cheating was no worse than Mosley's cheating because cheating is cheating. (And some people did say that, but I can't relate to that type of thinking).

              Originally posted by animalavenue View Post
              Floyd wasnt chasing Oscars belt he wanted the money that comes with facing Oscar. The belt was bonus.
              Legacy-wise winning a belt at a higher weight meant quite a lot. Obviously the money did as well. And De La Hoya's name on his résumé did as well. They were all factors.

              Originally posted by animalavenue View Post
              He was man enough to fight Oscar AT OSCARS WEIGHT. Dont try and take it away from him.
              I wasn't, I give him props for that. I was just saying that it wasn't legitimate to criticise Oscar for not coming down in weight to fight him, whereas it is legitimate to criticise Floyd for not wanting to fight JMM at 140 (whether you think he's justified on the basis of being the bigger draw or not).
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-20-2009, 10:22 PM.

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              • lol, the hate for floyd still rages in some people.

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                • Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
                  i dont care if marquez loses. He will lose. But he wont get dominated like hatton. Looking at floyd's semi above average roster of opponents, i dont see a pure boxer counter punching technician.
                  emmanuel augustus, zab judah, sharmba mitchell, sosa, hernandez...

                  I see a lot of aggresive attacking fighters but no one near the skill set of a juan manuel marquez.
                  agreed

                  Theres a reason why floyd chose castillo & corrales instead of acelino freitas & joel casamayor @ 130 & 135.
                  yeah, cause castillo was 135 lber kingpin and corrales was a p4p fighter.

                  Theres a reason why floyd chose bruselles,corley, & gatti instead of kostya tszyzu, mosley, hatton, & cotto @ 140
                  yeah... tszyu was semi-retired, mosley had a toothache, floyd ktfo hatton, arum would never put his cash cow in with floyd.

                  & Theres a reason why floyd chose baldomir, judah, & hatton @ 147 instead of cotto, pwilliams, mosley, margarito,clottey,quintana,cintron,or collazo.
                  yeah... arum would never put his cash cow in with floyd, pwill is a beast, mosley had a toothache, margo uses plaster, arum barely promoted clottey, quitnana was relative unknown, cintron got beat up by plasterito, and collazo lost to mosley and hatton and berto.

                  HES A SCARED *****.
                  probably not

                  Probably?

                  Ill probably be a millionaire if i win the lottery,
                  Ill probably be in the NBA if i could play like lebron,

                  Probably meet mosley in 2010?

                  WTF does that mean?
                  probably is more likely that possibly.

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                  • coward

                    what a coward just fight the men at 140 floyd its just waiting for hatton to beat paquiao and give em the remacht i just hope people can see the yellow in gaywhether

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                    • [QUOTE=GetSumBrah;5113275]i dont care if marquez loses. He will lose. But he wont get dominated like hatton. Looking at floyd's semi above average roster of opponents, i dont see a pure boxer counter punching technician.

                      I see a lot of aggresive attacking fighters but no one near the skill set of a juan manuel marquez.

                      Theres a reason why floyd chose castillo & corrales instead of acelino freitas & joel casamayor @ 130 & 135.

                      Linel Titles.

                      Theres a reason why floyd chose bruselles,corley, & gatti instead of kostya tszyzu, mosley, hatton, & cotto @ 140

                      Mosley never fought at 140. Hatton and Cotto didnt want none.

                      & Theres a reason why floyd chose baldomir, judah, & hatton @ 147 instead of cotto, pwilliams, mosley, margarito,clottey,quintana,cintron,or collazo.

                      Linel Title.

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