Mayweather vs. Marquez on July 18 - Two Pounds Apart?

[Osirus022]

you sound really ignorant.. like a lame internet keyboard ****er

and u sound like a d*ckrider that didnt know how to reply 2 the message in backin Mayweather up wit what i said. sad puppy

[jetgeomcx]

And look what it did to Oscar. Floyd shouldn't budge much at all from 147. It's not like he shows up at 157+ like many other WW. When he was active at WW, he was showing up around 149 by fight-time...that's around the same weight many Jr.WW {140 division} show up for fight-time. 147 was the weight Pac showed up for Diaz by fight-time. Floyd just doesn't want to drain weight and I see no point. I also don't see much point in this fight either although I think it is obvious he is doing it to set-up a fight with Pac (if he wins against Hatton).

The lower the weight Floyd goes now the more he risks showing up "flat" and being taken out of his game both Mentally and Physically for training because he will start to worry about making weight.
Even Freddie Roach has mentioned that a "catch-weight" would be best for Pac to fight Floyd at because it will take something away from Floyd before the fight.

If Floyd wants Pac at 147, since Pac already fought there and dominated Oscar there, he shouldn't really do a catch-weight because Roach will want the same thing.

Who knows what the layoff will do to hinder Floyd fighting at a high level let alone the weight issue.

because oscar was a goner, is bigger than floyd and old at 36. floyd can easily go down in weight compared to "that" oscar. why is floyd not giving any concession to jmm who was fyting all his life at 126-130?? manny weighed in at 142 against oscar's 145. i salute dinamita going to 143lbs just to face floyd. as for floyd??..... dunno

[jetgeomcx]

bluffing and cute

Normally i would be up in arms with Mayweather tryin' to fight sum1 in such a lower wieght class, but JMM is asking for this fight..... but with that said theres also been many true 147 pounders calling this guy out yet he calls them "too green"? but back to this fight, i think it'll be more interesting to watch than one would think so i'd watch it, i wouldn't pay for it but i'd watch.

he was just bluffing then,...if not just being cute to manny. suddenly jmm finds himself in deep **** he can't backtract. nacho must be breathing on his neck both of them a-trembling. this is what i said way back then jmm: "be careful of what you wish for, it may come true." now your foot is stuck in your mouth. but seriously, i will root for juanita dinamita if this fyt pushes through!

[jetgeomcx]

Again, Manny moved up from 135 after only one fight against the
bigger Oscar De La Hoya and schooled him at his debut at 147 so
why can't JMM move up and still keep his abilities or be better?
Pac/JMM are rivals, so your saying Pac can do it and JMM can't?
145/143 is not asking much considering JMM is an elite fighter right?
Plus PBF is coming out of retirement and maybe a lil rusty. I hear
so many excuses on here that it's ridiculous.

You have been extolling manny, I noticed. Thanks you can see that. Tell you what, manny has gained more mass than jmm and pacman is a lot better than dinamita. Sssssh…..don’t tell that to others, jmm’s fans will whack me…..

[jetgeomcx]

Again, Freddie Roach went on record and said he would want Pacquiao
to fight at a catch weight with Mayweather and Pacquiao carries the
weight up extremely well and is the P4P#1 fighter in the world. PBF
is just a beast. I think after he serves up JMM then Pacquiao, Mosley
will get his schooling and then he ends it off with beating Cotto up and
then retires again the P4P#1 fighter in the world ;-) He's smart. I don't
think Floyd will come back for only two fights. He's going for the status
and to silence the critics and get paid big time while doing it.

i hope your ball is crystal clear,...that floyd will want to silence his critics. as to winning all those fyts is another thing. i am a fan of floyd the boxer, until he opens his mouth. that's is why i like manny the most,... "silent operator" with humility. floyd is a real turn-off after the fyt.

[jetgeomcx]

jmm already created a legacy by owning Pac twice

hey man,...no wonder your "reputation power" is all too red... hehehe

[GRUSTLER]

[QUOTE=animalavenue;5112646]

I'm not cherry picking at all, because I'm talking about stacking the cards so as to make it less competetive (at least in theory) than it should be. Oscar stacked the cards a little bit [/B]over the ring size, the gloves, and a lot over the share of the purse, but he was not stacking the cards over the weight.No one was claiming that he was a natural Welterweight or that he could easily move down if he wanted to. And even if he had been a natural Welterweight, [I]Floyd would have wanted the fight to be at 154, in order to be able to get his belt, so it wasn't a case of Oscar trying to force Floyd to fight at a higher weight than he felt able to.[/QUOTE]

Like I said before he was stacking the cards in his favor. Just like PBF is. How is irrelevant. One is not better or more acceptable than the other. Trying to point out the lesser of the two IS cherry-picking.

Are we playing the if game too now?

Floyd wasnt chasing Oscars belt he wanted the money that comes with facing Oscar. The belt was bonus. He was man enough to fight Oscar AT OSCARS WEIGHT. Dont try and take it away from him.

Word! I feel the same way. The man went up to 154 when clearly
he was out of his comfort zone. Settled for all of Oscar's demands
without arguing about it. Gloves, Ring, weight, $......and still won,
it was close but why wouldn't it be, especially if your in Oscar's house?
He was the bigger man with all the odds stacked in his favor, but you
can't explain and tell that to most on here because then your a Floyd
nut hugger or Cheerleader? Wow, I've been out of public school for a
long time sometimes on here I feel like Deja Vu with the name
calling. Anyways Floyd paid the cost to be the boss, so God bless him.

[GRUSTLER]

It is probably hard to understand this for you, but I am not making a point about Mayweather, or who he should fight.

I will summarize this for your limited abilities.

Someone I respect said Judah was not the man in 2005 (jreckoning). I believe I have strong grounds to disagree with him and I am interested in discussing this with him (and of course jabs, and possibly the other guy I did not know who made the post about Michael Spinks).

Not with someone who just showed they started watching the sport last week, like you. If you did, you would know that Judah-Mayweather was signed before Judah lost to Baldomir. Come back to talk to me, when you have learned about things that happened before last week.

That's what's up my peoples! Let these kids know because obviously
there is more that goes on in the sport that guys who just started to
watch don't know. You can also add that All the guys Floyd fought
at Welter had titles with exception to Sharmba Mitchell & Ricky Hatton
but he made the most sense $ wise. If people really do the knowledge
all the moves Floyd made at Welter was to get to Oscar to become the
person he is now and having a notable position to be able to call shots
and make the most $ LIKE OSCAR. Floyd was already solidified at 130-135
the guy is going down as the #1/2 Jr Lightweight in the Sport, his place
in history is stamped. I do want to see him fight Mosley/Cotto though.

[IMDAZED]

[QUOTE=GRUSTLER;5114651]

Word! I feel the same way. The man went up to 154 when clearly
he was out of his comfort zone. Settled for all of Oscar's demands
without arguing about it. Gloves, Ring, weight, $......and still won,
it was close but why wouldn't it be, especially if your in Oscar's house?
He was the bigger man with all the odds stacked in his favor, but you
can't explain and tell that to most on here because then your a Floyd
nut hugger or Cheerleader? Wow, I've been out of public school for a
long time sometimes on here I feel like Deja Vu with the name
calling. Anyways Floyd paid the cost to be the boss, so God bless him.

While I agree that Floyd went out of his way to settle for Oscar's demands, he didn't exactly move up to 154. I mean, 148 isn't that big a difference.

[GRUSTLER]

You have been extolling manny, I noticed. Thanks you can see that. Tell you what, manny has gained more mass than jmm and pacman is a lot better than dinamita. Sssssh…..don’t tell that to others, jmm’s fans will whack me…..

I think sometimes people on here get it twisted with me.
I watch boxing and have many favorite fighters and can see who's
who and what's what. I like Manny Pacquiao and always enjoy
watching him fight as well as Floyd Mayweather Jr, JMM, Paul Williams,
Ricky Hatton Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Bernhard Hopkins,
James Kirkland, Alfredo Angulo, Vic Darchynian. I have my
favorites but I don't blind myself to others. I think the biggest
thing that erks me on here is that instead of people explaining
why they feel a certain way about a certain fighter or breaking
down their reasons on why they feel a certain way about a fighters
chances against another, they prefer to call names and never
back up their claims of knowing or explaining why we differ on opinions.
With that said, I don't knock Manny's achievements or capabilities, I'm
just not totally sold on everything like many others and that goes for
other fighters as well. Don't expect to agree with everyone all the time
but won't knock a person if we don't.