Mayweather vs. Marquez on July 18 - Two Pounds Apart?

[htown_boxingfan]

alot of people in this post are saying JMM should fight at 147 because JMM called PBF out .... yes he did call PBF but JMM mentioned at a catch weight of 140 he is even will to fight up to 143 goes to shows how much "huevos"(BALLS) JMM has given he has never fought above 135

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alot of people in this post are saying JMM should fight at 147 because JMM called PBF out .... yes he did call PBF but JMM mentioned at a catch weight of 140 he is even will to fight up to 143 goes to shows how much "huevos"(BALLS) JMM has given he has never fought above 135

Neither did Pacquiao before De La Hoya and he did a spectacular job so
shouldn't be NO issues for the current P4P#2 fighter and rival of Manny
Pacquiao.

[JmH Reborn]

I for one think this fight is going to be exiting

Don't sleep on Marquez, he has a much better resume; he's experienced and he's a professional and will have his body right. I just don't think he has the agililty to last with PBF.

Anyways, all things being equal; lets be real clear. Cotto never ducked PBF. That's silly...Cotto's resume is already better than PBF, why should be scared of PBF. He's featherfisted. At 140 the fight never materialized, however at 147 PBF said Cotto was too green when his name was brought up

In an interview here on Boxingscene, Cotto said in reference to PBF that PBF will have to answer the question as to why the fight never happened. Cotto has always stated he fights whoever is in front of him and that there are other fights that can happen if Mayweather doesn't want to fight. That was Cotto's way of calling PBF. He is a quiet warrior. And those knocking his loss to Margarito...evidence is pointing to a foreign substance in his hands...and Cotto held his own the entire fight. He never was knocked down. His chin cannot be questioned...its why he moved up...too drained to meet 140 limit with his body composite...that's why PBF wanted to fight him @ 140, he looked vulnerable at 140 and a stud at 147.

I do enjoy Mayweather's style, but his hardcore fans need to step back and look at everything. Cotto fights those that nobody wants to fight. Adding Clottey is only building the legacy

[jetgeomcx]

And look what it did to Oscar. Floyd shouldn't budge much at all from 147. It's not like he shows up at 157+ like many other WW. When he was active at WW, he was showing up around 149 by fight-time...that's around the same weight many Jr.WW {140 division} show up for fight-time. 147 was the weight Pac showed up for Diaz by fight-time. Floyd just doesn't want to drain weight and I see no point. I also don't see much point in this fight either although I think it is obvious he is doing it to set-up a fight with Pac (if he wins against Hatton).

The lower the weight Floyd goes now the more he risks showing up "flat" and being taken out of his game both Mentally and Physically for training because he will start to worry about making weight.
Even Freddie Roach has mentioned that a "catch-weight" would be best for Pac to fight Floyd at because it will take something away from Floyd before the fight.

If Floyd wants Pac at 147, since Pac already fought there and dominated Oscar there, he shouldn't really do a catch-weight because Roach will want the same thing.

Who knows what the layoff will do to hinder Floyd fighting at a high level let alone the weight issue.

whatever your logic is,...i still see a mismatch in whatever weight floyd and jmm will fyt. floyd is way out of jmm's league. i dont understand why he is so worried about juanma, a midget just like what paquiao used to be. floyd can decimate jmm at 140,...unless floyd is that bloated he cant make the prescribed wt.

bottom line for me is that floyd can overwhelm jmm in whatever catch wt as long as floyd can make the wt during weigh-in.

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whatever your logic is,...i still see a mismatch in whatever weight floyd and jmm will fyt. floyd is way out of jmm's league. i dont understand why he is so worried about juanma, a midget just like what paquiao used to be. floyd can decimate jmm at 140,...unless floyd is that bloated he cant make the prescribed wt.

bottom line for me is that floyd can overwhelm jmm in whatever catch wt as long as floyd can make the wt during weigh-in.

That may or may not be the case but fact of the matter is that Freddie
Roach wants Pac to fight at a catch weight against Floyd if they ever
fought as well. Bottm line is that Floyd is a problem at any weight but
why come out of retirement for almost 2 years and fight all the way down
to 140 when Marquez could just come up to 143 and meet Floyd in the
middle? Especially if he has stated he'd fight PBF at 140/43. Pacquiao
was effective at 147 and JMM is the same size as Pac so why wouldn't
JMM be effective at 143? I think the reason people think it is a mismatch
is because Floyd is that good & too much for the P4P#2 fighter in
the world after a long layoff & dropping pounds, you guys still don't
give JMM a chance? Ha ha! I love it and the multiple excuses on
why PBF shouldn't fight him.

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are u a practicing "defense lawyer"....you're good..

No i am just looking at the situation, and it's sad. But quite obvious.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

i'd say 140-144

Me too! 142 is fair for both sides. marquez goes up 7 Floyd comes down 5.

[jetgeomcx]

its alot easier to go up in weight than go down we all know this but alot of floyd haters seem to have forgotten this, look at examples of RJJ or DLH when they decided to shed too much weight too quickly.

floyd is not a big WW but he does have alot of lean muscle mass and 145 or 144 is a fair weight. for JMM 144 or 145 is also fair he can bulk up and still campaign at 140 later on if he wants.

you know with all the circus around weight and weight issues iv found a new repsect for sugar shane, his dedication, ability and talent. alot of fighters like DLH and RJJ have found it hard to campaign at higher weights and then go back down but suagr shane went up to 154 and then cam back down to 147 and has still maintained alot of his speed and reflexes.

friend, one weight division is nothing to scoof at going up or down. but for jmm to be fighting at 147 when he is a natural 130 is too much to ask for. i give juanma a lot of props for wanting floyd's scalp. but then he is asking far too much to chew in floyd......

[jetgeomcx]

That may or may not be the case but fact of the matter is that Freddie
Roach wants Pac to fight at a catch weight against Floyd if they ever
fought as well. Bottm line is that Floyd is a problem at any weight but
why come out of retirement for almost 2 years and fight all the way down
to 140 when Marquez could just come up to 143 and meet Floyd in the
middle? Especially if he has stated he'd fight PBF at 140/43. Pacquiao
was effective at 147 and JMM is the same size as Pac so why wouldn't
JMM be effective at 143? I think the reason people think it is a mismatch
is because Floyd is that good & too much for the P4P#2 fighter in
the world after a long layoff & dropping pounds, you guys still don't
give JMM a chance? Ha ha! I love it and the multiple excuses on
why PBF shouldn't fight him.

my friend, manny fought oscar at 143 catch! with a penalty of US$1M for every excess poundage thereat! now floyd is a small WW unlike oscar who is a jrMW(154) who even fought at 160(MW). it is much easier for floyd to go down to 143, even 140! again if he didn't bloat tooo much during is hiatus!! jmm will be too small at 140-143, unlike manny who became bigger and bewildering! for whatever argument there is,...i always believe, (though with choiced opinion), that both parties in any fyt have a 50-50% chance against each other until the first ding of the bell.......they signed the contract because they believe they can win!!!

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friend, one weight division is nothing to scoof at going up or down. but for jmm to be fighting at 147 when he is a natural 130 is too much to ask for. i give juanma a lot of props for wanting floyd's scalp. but then he is asking far too much to chew in floyd......

Again, Manny moved up from 135 after only one fight against the
bigger Oscar De La Hoya and schooled him at his debut at 147 so
why can't JMM move up and still keep his abilities or be better?
Pac/JMM are rivals, so your saying Pac can do it and JMM can't?
145/143 is not asking much considering JMM is an elite fighter right?
Plus PBF is coming out of retirement and maybe a lil rusty. I hear
so many excuses on here that it's ridiculous.