Mayweather vs. Marquez on July 18 - Two Pounds Apart?

[GRUSTLER]

Great point. I'd like to add this to it. If Cotto loses to Clottey, a Cotto fight is irrelevant. I would have loved to see a Cotto\Mayweather fight a year or two ago. I've always felt that once Cotto started fighting the bigger welterweights his stock and popularity would fall. I don't see him beating Paul Williams,Clottey or Mosely. I know he won their last fight but I personally didn't see like that. I thought it was a draw.

I think the Mayweather/Cotto fight was on the horizon
before the Antonio Margarito fight (When Cotto was a
favorite to win) Even De La Hoya wanted Miguel Cotto
before Manny so that showed he was on his way to getting
Floyd but the loss to Margarito stauled it. Even Roger
Mayweather said that they were considering Cotto if he
beat Margarito. I always thought Cotto was a good
puncher but I felt his weakness was the fact that he
is there to get hit often and has been hurt in a lot of his
big fights. All it would take is a fighter that could take his
big punch away & it would be a difficult fight for Cotto
because he really doesn't utilize technical ring skills because
his punch is feared in the ring. Cotto was able to out box
Mosley & that's what makes me confident that Floyd would
out box Shane easy. Again you take Cotto's punch away
and he is yours if you have the heart to take him. I had a
dream that Clottey knocked Cotto out, lets see what happens
June 13th. If Cotto beats Clottey then beats Shane again
then definitely Cotto should get Floyd.

[fdotorres]

No he didnt...he came up to Floyd like a bum begger and went back with his tail between his legs.
fLOYD TOLD HIM TO HIS FACE.."When I beat you donw the line itll be bigger and better, I make smart business deciosn you should be like me".

Floyd then proceeded to pull people out of the crowd and ask them if they knew who Margarito was....no one knew him.

If anyone was punked it was Marg.

problem is, floyd has the same argument for everyone. he may ask anyone if he knows marg, but the one that's gonna sell out all the attendance isn't gonna be him. that's why people were able to boo the US anthem in the US, because NO ONE goes to see mayweather fight, not even americans

[Pugilistic™]

I'm disappointed with this.

Mayweather should be fighting real welterweights.

Not small lightweights

[GRUSTLER]

For the guys like yourself who have more than likely NEVER boxed competitively I'll attempt to explain the weight issue. Floyd's natural fighting weight is probably 135 or 140. That means in between fights those are the weight we can come down to and fight without losing anything. During this time he probably weighs somewhere between 147 and 155. He is therefore not a true welterweight by any means no matter how you critics like to twist it. Now, you may ask why does he want to fight at 147 now? He's not in fighting condition and has been off for a while. His weight is probably considerably higher than 147 at the moment. Probably around 160 to 166. It would be too much to come down to 140 right now. It is possible that he may never fight at 140 again because his body has grown to maintain a higher weight. It's almost like stunting your natural growth when you're in condition. Meaning now that he's been off his body has grown naturally to allow him to become a true welterweight . During the time he was fighting this wasn't the case. The problem with having your first fight back against a bigger welterweight is he hasn't had the chance to gage the effectiveness of carrying this weight. I'll explain, when he fought De La Hoya, he was already in shape and probably put on muscle and weight to just to come in at 150. Now, he's probably at least 10 pounds over what his heaviest fighting weight was. Its a different type of training camp. That is why JMM is considered a tuneup. He's going to learn what he fight comfortably at with his new body. Anyone that has boxed or wrestled knows what I'm talking about.

What does that have to do with my post? I never said anything
in my post that you replied to about weight issues?

[Burner]

I'm disappointed with this.

Mayweather should be fighting real welterweights.

Not small lightweights

July 11th and 18th were the dates Floyd got to pick from.

Cotto and Clottey are booked.
Mosley didnt want to pay up.
Cintron is booked.
Collazo is a noody.
Quitana is a nobody.
Berto is boooked with Urango and his team wouldnt let him fight floyd anyway.
Williams is superman.

[Luis12]

Mayweather beats anyone his size by KO.

ur officialy gayweather's *****

why don't he fight cotto, mosley, collazo, berto, quintana, clottey, bradley??

what's the excuse now??

[Luis12]

July 11th and 18th were the dates Floyd got to pick from.

Cotto and Clottey are booked.
Mosley didnt want to pay up.
Cintron is booked.
Collazo is a noody.
Quitana is a nobody.
Berto is boooked with Urango and his team wouldnt let him fight floyd anyway.
Williams is superman.

excuses, excuses, excuses... collazo a nobody?? quintana a noboday?? the guy that schooled ur daddy for 12 rds and that he refuse to give the rematch

floyd's ***** no.2

[GRUSTLER]

problem is, floyd has the same argument for everyone. he may ask anyone if he knows marg, but the one that's gonna sell out all the attendance isn't gonna be him. that's why people were able to boo the US anthem in the US, because NO ONE goes to see mayweather fight, not even americans

I hear you but regardless of what, Floyd Mayweather Jr was the P4P#1
fighter and had the option to fight Margarito or not. Margarito wanted
a shot at Floyd because it would have helped him in a big way. Floyd
didn't really gain nothing by fighting Margarito and felt it didn't add up.
I don't feel it was a scared decision not to give him a shot but more of
a career decision. He told Margarito to keep winning and it will be greater
for them later. Right after Margarito lost to a rather unknown Paul
Williams. Maybe if Marg would have beat Paul then Cotto, it would have been something to talk about. I think everytime Cotto/Margarito was right there to be warranted for a shot at the #1 title it slipped through their fingers, same with Paul by losing to Carlos Quintana the first time. Look
what happened to Kermit Cintron? Lost big time to Mrgarito twice but
before the guy was on his way. Sure boxing is a sport but it is also
about smart decisions and economics. That's why right after Cotto
lost to Margarito De La Hoya didn't want to fight Margarito because
Cotto was the man up until that point. Sucks for us fans but that
is the reality of it.

[htown_boxingfan]

I'm disappointed with this.

Mayweather should be fighting real welterweights.

Not small lightweights

cosign

[FalconBalla2]

I don't see why all these people are fussin about Cotto... He made everything bad for himself in losing to Tony. If he would have lost to Shane, everything would have been ok. But him losing to Margarito showed many weaknesses. He tried to pull a Floyd and fight going backwards againt a bigger guy but his footwork aught up with him cuz its not good. He should have stuck to his guns and countered Marg to death like Shane did... rather he tried to beat Tony to the punch all night which he did pretty well for the most part... but since he was going backwards his punches lost steam... If he would have sat under his punches he could've did something but he changed his whole style and demeanor for that entire fight. Not the sign of a true champ.. Tony really didn't do much of anything that fight as he was losing every round but he fought with a purpose and eventually gave Cotto those 3 digging uppers that crumbled him.. He did lose to a cheater but the cheater also TOOK everything he had to give (which was alot). I see Clottey putting the same kind of pressure on Cotto... Cotto won't be able to hit Clottey effectively to the body at all cuz he couldn't even do it to defenseless Margo. Clottey's shell defense will give Miguel problems... I see Cotto throwing alot of punches and getting tired and Clottey capitalizing off of his mistakes... Clottey is very patient. He just needs to worry about lunging too much with those triple hooks of his and he'll be fine. I wouldn't rule out Cotto catching him lunging while he's throwing the triple hooks... I just don't see him doing that.