since when did workrate win fights???its ******

[Ryn0]

That one straight left that opened the cut in Jones' eye in the 7 is what makes people think Roy got totally outclassed. He got outworked, Nothing special.

Hopkins def won that fight. There's no doubt. Calzaghe ain't land **** on Hopkins.

Edit: Hopkins was catching Calzaghe with clean counter rights all night.

When you say all night, you mean like twice a round right?

Seriously Calzaghe landed nothing significant maybe a handful of REALy hard (by Joes standards) clean shots. The rest were pit-pat punches but still landed. Hopkins was throwing NOTHING after the 3rd rounds, Hopkins is a huge favourite of mine don't get my wrong but he fought that fight soo wrong. He was clinching twice as much as he was punching and landed the straight right counter (he throw no other punches) every so often but nowhere near enough to beat even Calzaghe pit pat crap ass shots.

Joe also beat up Roy that night. Everyone knows it, Roy wasn't the same Roy he was and Joe beat him up.

[larryx]

is that why a few months after the fight hopkins said calzaghe was a 'master strategist' and the it was the hardest guy 2 fight in his career?

im not saying anything negative about joe first off..just saying all the movement is what got him tired..he was never hurt

[El Dominicano]

im not saying anything negative about joe first off..just saying all the movement is what got him tired..he was never hurt, infact...he looked like he was getting ready for another fight that day

Fixed it again

[The_Demon]

im not saying anything negative about joe first off..just saying all the movement is what got him tired..he was never hurt

i agree he was never hurt.it was a very close fight but hopkins excessive clinching didnt help his cause,i think calzaghe won clearly in the end,just my opinion

[larryx]

i agree he was never hurt.it was a very close fight but hopkins excessive clinching didnt help his cause,i think calzaghe won clearly in the end,just my opinion

he outworked him..yes
clearly won???no
do i agree he won-yes

[larryx]

Fixed it again

lol.......................

[Ryn0]

im not saying anything negative about joe first off..just saying all the movement is what got him tired..he was never hurt

In the case of Joe-Bernard, Workrate won Joe the fight because Hopkins wasn't throwing anything.

But I can see your point if one fight throws 100 punches and lands 20 whereas another throws 50 and lands 20 also doesn't it depends on how hard the punches landed were? Theres more than one way to evaluate punching.

[larryx]

In the case of Joe-Bernard, Workrate won Joe the fight because Hopkins wasn't throwing anything.

But I can see your point if one fight throws 100 punches and lands 20 whereas another throws 50 and lands 20 also doesn't it depends on how hard the punches landed were? Theres more than one way to evaluate punching.

agreed.......................

[The_Demon]

he outworked him..yes
clearly won???no
do i agree he won-yes

it hasnt harmed hopkins career,he is a true legend

[larryx]

it hasnt harmed hopkins career,he is a true legend

respect.................