since when did workrate win fights???its ******

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  • IMDAZED
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    #81
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    The 4 point scoring criteria is ******. It really is all just part of asking who took more damage?

    Ring general ship is just getting yourself into the position to score, but it means **** if you aren't throwing and connecting. A guy who pins his opponents on the ropes for all 3 minutes of a round but doesn't score did a good job on ring generalship, but it doesn't matter.
    Clean effective punching and effectiveness aggressiveness are the actual punching part that scores the points to win rounds for you.
    Defense is the other half of the equation, limiting the amount of damage your opponent does to you.

    The real question of who wins a round is well put by Max Kellerman: Who would you rather have been in that round? They get a 10-9.
    Ring Generalship is much more than that.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #82
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Ring Generalship is much more than that.
      I just made a thread starting with that post. Shed some light on it.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #83
        Originally posted by bsrizpac
        It shouldn't and it's not a scoring criteria:

        1. Effective, Clean Punching
        2. Ring Generalship
        3. Effective Aggressiveness
        4. Defense.

        3 gets ignored a lot when there is a star fighter like ODL. And recently has become a big deal to judges who forget the EFFECTIVE PART.

        The problem is long and deep, but basically -it's going towards pro boxing being more like Olympic boxing which is a BAD thing.
        what happens when there is no clean punching or ring generalship or effective aggressiveness?

        you're left with aggressiveness and defense. some judges like the guy who is trying to make the fight happen.

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        • bsrizpac
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          #84
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          what happens when there is no clean punching or ring generalship or effective aggressiveness?

          you're left with aggressiveness and defense. some judges like the guy who is trying to make the fight happen.
          I mean that makes sense obviously but how often is there NO clean punching by one guy or the other?

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          • Fulcrum29
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            #85
            aww larry is that you in the avatar. we finally get to see ya. you one of my favorite posters.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #86
              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              I mean that makes sense obviously but how often is there NO clean punching by one guy or the other?
              what about hopkins/winky? that was a sloppy as fight.

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              • Larry the boss
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                #87
                lol...........

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by larry x..
                  lol...........
                  You into the booze or what? Spare us the trip down memory lane.

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by larry x..
                    lol...........
                    Das only thing dat counts is wen a slick bruvva lands da jab.

                    Dats how fights is won larry ya feel me.

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums!
                      Das only thing dat counts is wen a slick bruvva lands da jab.

                      Dats how fights is won larry ya feel me.
                      So you think hitting air should count?

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