Barrera: "They Should Have Stopped it in The First"

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  • Dave Rado
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    #51
    Originally posted by Silencers
    He still has some improvements to make but he's become a much, much improved fighter compared to where he was 6 months ago.
    Yes, so many people are wilfully ignoring that fact. It was unfortunate for both fighters that the cut happened - from Khan's point of view because it reduced the quality of the win and meant that he wasn't tested for 12 rounds, which would have been a great learning experience. But it was still obvious to anyone who was unbiased that this version of Khan is a far better fighter, with a far better defence, far more disciplined offence, and much better fundamentals, than the pre-Roach version.

    That is the only thing this fight was ever going to prove anyway. A win over a shell of a Barrera was never going to be meaningful except as a learning experience. But as a learning experience it was a good fight for him at this stage in his career.

    The posters who are saying he's ready to fight a top 5 contender, or Prescott, or Marquez, are delusional. He needs several more learning fights against gradually improving opposition before he even thinks of fighting the elite.

    I think he's ready for someone just outside world class like David Diaz or an Alex Arthur now, and that he should fight someone like that next. Maybe in 3 fights time, with continual improvement under Roach, he might be ready to outbox Prescott. Maybe in 5 fights time, he might be ready to face the likes of Marquez. If Warren rushes him faster than that, he'll destroy his career, IMO.

    It was sad to see an ATG lose in that way, but Barrera didn't have to come out of retirement, it was his choice. The fight won't harm his legacy, he's still one of the greatest Mexican fighters of all time.
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 03-15-2009, 09:16 AM.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #52
      Originally posted by timba1988
      Barrera shouldn't have said he was ok to continue. There is pride and there is common sense.
      Why didn't his corner pull him out after one round? They could have done that without his formal agreement "for the sake of his health" and saved his pride that way.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #53
        Originally posted by cocampo
        i dont think khan has proven himslef, i like to see him fight one of the top lightweights, maybe chris john or even nate campbell...
        In 5-6 fights time, sure. (Except that those two aren't Lightweights, so they are bad examples).

        But he's nowhere near ready for any of the elite Lightweights yet. He was fighting like a complete amateur only 2 fights ago, for goodness sakes, so keep some perspective. Barrera was only the second serious opponent in his entire career, and he was appallingly over-protected before Prescott. He needs much more time with Roach and he needs to face a gradually increasing standard of opposition, and a variety of styles (tall fighters, southpaws, counter-punchers, pressure fighters), before being put in with the elite Lightweights.

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        • Silencers
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          #54
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          Yes, so many people are wilfully ignoring that fact. It was unfortunate for both fighters that the cut happened - from Khan's point of view because it reduced the quality of the win and meant that he wasn't tested for 12 rounds, which would have been a great learning experience. But it was still obvious to anyone who was unbiased that this version of Khan is a far better fighter, with a far better defence, far more disciplined offence, and much better fundamentals, than the pre-Roach version.

          That is the only thing this fight was ever going to prove anyway. A win over a shell of a Barrera was never going to be meaningful except as a learning experience. But as a learning experience it was a good fight for him at this stage in his career.

          The posters who are saying he's ready to fight a top 5 contender, or Prescott, or Marquez, are delusional. He needs several more learning fights against gradually improving opposition before he even thinks of fighting the elite.

          I think he's ready for someone just outside world class like David Diaz or an Alex Arthur now, and that he should fight someone like that next. Maybe in 3 fights time, with continual improvement under Roach, he might be ready to outbox Prescott. Maybe in 5 fights time, he might be ready to face the likes of Marquez. If Warren rushes him faster than that, he'll destroy his career, IMO.

          It was sad to see an ATG lose in that way, but Barrera didn't have to come out of retirement, it was his choice. The fight won't harm his legacy, he's still one of the greatest Mexican fighters of all time.
          Indeed, although I think Khan can fight Prescott again now and win. He definitely isn't ready yet for the elite of the division though, he will be in a few fights' time if he keeps improving.

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          • jollystomper
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            #55
            i think he should go for prescott next fight!!!
            warren claims to have some sort of deal(with prescott) and it would shut up any doubters still out there!!!
            amirs good enough to beat prescott! he jst beat the **** out of barrera!! ffs!

            dont give me that one eye ****!!!!! ive been blind in my left eye since i was born!!!
            having one eye dont mean you cant fight!! i know that for a fact!! (not a w-class boxinglevel fair enough!)
            but after 70+fights i think marco could adapt if he was up to kahns standard!
            b ut he wasnt! he was to slow,to small,didn`t hit hard enough!....basically he got WHOOPED!!!!! (the cut saved him from severe embaressment)
            i know marco made lots of bitchy excuses but i didnt hear him call for a rematch!?
            did anyone else?

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            • K U Y I P
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              #56
              unfortunately the ref nor the doctor didn't do their job justly. khan didn't proved anything in this fight.

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              • Abstraction
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                #57
                Originally posted by gotkayoed
                unfortunately the ref nor the doctor didn't do their job justly. khan didn't proved anything in this fight.
                To someone like you, maybe not.

                But to most normal people he did

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                • Memeori
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                  #58
                  If they stopped in the first round then everyone, even the Khan haters would be moaning and complaining because it was a highly enticing fight we were looking forward to.

                  The Fact it went on and ended in the 5th gives the haters an excuse for him losing by saying it should of been ended in the first round.

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                  • Memeori
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                    #59
                    If it carryed on and MAB got a lucky shot that put Khan out for 10 then it would be a case of him being a warrior and fighting on with a cut than his safety.

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                    • d_boy
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                      #60
                      I totally agree with Barrera. If the headbutt wouldn't of happened then it would have been a different story. I can't believe the media is claiming a huge victory of Khan over Barrera. Khan really didn't do **** to Barrera but a bunch of "pitty patta" punches. He didn't even hurt Barrera. I don't see Khan going too far in his division against a top fighter. He's way overrated and too much of a superstar in the UK. If thats as best that they get over there than he WILL get blown out here in the U.S...... bet that!

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