The truth about Ricky Hatton

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • brently1979
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jan 2007
    • 1226
    • 154
    • 441
    • 13,535

    #51
    Originally posted by The_Bringer
    Dude, you're starting to piss me off. First you say I picked Hatton when I didn't (you can use the search feature for posts by me containing the word "Hatton"), and then you confuse me with the psychotic internet loser who claimed to be a famous actor Addison?

    This is not the way to build a friendship.

    Phillips, Castillo, and Maussa I really don't rate at all. Maybe that's ignorance on my part.

    Urango seems to finally be creating some noise of his own in the division, so I'll hold off on him until he makes or breaks it. It's too early to tell right now.

    Malignaggi can't crack an egg, and he's most famous for what? Getting his ass beaten and his orbital bone broken by Cotto. He's also probably the dumbest fighter on the face of the planet. (Hey guys, let's get fake dreadlocks before a big fight on TV!)

    That said, you're correct about him, he was the #2 in the division at the time Hatton fought him, and he is a solid win.

    The Collazo fight, I thought Ricky lost. But it was close enough I could see it being scored for Hatton as well. Solid win, that one.

    The Tszyu fight was nothing but a showcase of fouls and illegal moves. I don't see how you can say it was a showcase for Hatton's skillset and abilities. Granted, Tszyu more than did his share of illegal things as well. But Hatton fouled the living **** out of Tszyu right back. I thought it was a horribly ugly fight.
    The Tszyu fight was terrrible. Hatton has holding and hitting all night.
    I just don't like Hatton's Wrestling style of fighting. It's not entertaining.

    Comment

    • ßringer
      **** Subtlety
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Jun 2006
      • 28180
      • 2,785
      • 2,762
      • 48,350

      #52
      Originally posted by Hook
      It's odd how when Hatton does it it's called fouls and illegal moves, but when Hopkins does it it's called great skill.

      Also Hatton doesn't go around head butting people...
      Hopkins leads with hs head, no doubt about that. And if Hatton tried to headbutt somebody he'd only end up busting himself open, and getting TKO'd, thanks to all of his scar tissue.

      Hatton is a dirtier fighter than Hopkins, on the whole.

      Comment

      • ßringer
        **** Subtlety
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jun 2006
        • 28180
        • 2,785
        • 2,762
        • 48,350

        #53
        Originally posted by brently1979
        The Tszyu fight was terrrible. Hatton has holding and hitting all night.
        I just don't like Hatton's Wrestling style of fighting. It's not entertaining.
        I gotta tell you, I don't really like the "honorary Mexican" thing either. Honorary my ass, says who? Every Mexican fan I've ever conversed with hates his style.

        I was ashamed my boy Barrera walked to the ring with him for the Castillo fight.

        Comment

        • Fulcrum29
          Banned
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Aug 2008
          • 4171
          • 171
          • 44
          • 4,430

          #54
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          Ricky Hatton has enjoyed many years in the limelight, becoming a standout "star" in the world of professional prizefighting. Ever since his upset win over Kostya Tszyu, Hatton has enjoyed being placed amongst the biggest stars in boxing. With a loyal fanbase that will fly across the world to see him fight, a big name in the boxing world, a solid record of opponets, and the recognition of being the man to beat at Junior Welterweight.

          But all of this is merely a smokescreen. Hatton is a B level fighter at best. At 140lbs, his division of choice, Hatton is undefeated in the ring. But the division itself is well known for being less than stellar, and I'd go much farther and say it's quite possibly the worst division in boxing right now. Either that or Super Middleweight.

          Hatton's biggest victories are a foul filled win over Kostya Tszyu, a knockout of a shot Jose Luis Castillo, and a "knockout" of Paulie Malignaggi.

          Hatton walks around at about 180lbs, yet chooses to fight at 140lbs, why? I think it's because Hatton knows he would get starched by any top 5 fighter at 135lbs or 147lbs.

          Just look at Hatton's brief "campaign" at 147lbs, a lot of people thought he lost in his very first fight at 147lbs against unhailed Luis Collazo. In his next fight, Hatton opted to fight Juan Urango at 140lbs and earned a UD victory, and he followed that with a 4th round KO over shot veteran Jose Luis Castillo again, at [U]140lbs[/B].

          In his next fight at 147lbs, Hatton was knocked out by undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr, and he quickly returned to 140lbs.

          Hatton is a fraud. His walk around weight is close to 40lbs heavier than the weight he chooses to fight at. It's clear to me he's picked 140lbs as his division of choice due to the thin level of competition, and low risk opponets that are to be had there. Thus allowing him to continue to feed his record with opponets, and stand out as a "star" in the boxing world, who cashes in with big money fights.

          I can't wait to see Pacquiao knock this bum out once and for all.
          The victories you used to discredit Hatton go against your argument since all the guys that Hatton beat have gone on to do big things like Urango and Collazo who just arguably beat a guy that is considered by many the heir to the welterweight throne and Hatton arguably beat a better version of that guy too.

          He just beat a guy that went the distance with Cotto, Hatton KNOCED HIM OUT (he's never been knocked out before).

          I think you're just a biased hater.

          Comment

          • The Gambler1981
            Undisputed Champion
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • May 2008
            • 25961
            • 521
            • 774
            • 49,039

            #55
            Originally posted by The_Bringer
            Hopkins leads with hs head, no doubt about that. And if Hatton tried to headbutt somebody he'd only end up busting himself open, and getting TKO'd, thanks to all of his scar tissue.

            Hatton is a dirtier fighter than Hopkins, on the whole.
            B-Hop atleast tries to be sneaky with his dirty tricks, Hatton just blantantly does all the things you said, he does not even go through the formality of trying to hide it.

            Comment

            • freedom213
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Apr 2006
              • 3388
              • 112
              • 164
              • 10,016

              #56
              Originally posted by The_Bringer
              Ricky Hatton has enjoyed many years in the limelight, becoming a standout "star" in the world of professional prizefighting. Ever since his upset win over Kostya Tszyu, Hatton has enjoyed being placed amongst the biggest stars in boxing. With a loyal fanbase that will fly across the world to see him fight, a big name in the boxing world, a solid record of opponets, and the recognition of being the man to beat at Junior Welterweight.

              But all of this is merely a smokescreen. Hatton is a B level fighter at best. At 140lbs, his division of choice, Hatton is undefeated in the ring. But the division itself is well known for being less than stellar, and I'd go much farther and say it's quite possibly the worst division in boxing right now. Either that or Super Middleweight.

              Hatton's biggest victories are a foul filled win over Kostya Tszyu, a knockout of a shot Jose Luis Castillo, and a "knockout" of Paulie Malignaggi.

              Hatton walks around at about 180lbs, yet chooses to fight at 140lbs, why? I think it's because Hatton knows he would get starched by any top 5 fighter at 135lbs or 147lbs.

              Just look at Hatton's brief "campaign" at 147lbs, a lot of people thought he lost in his very first fight at 147lbs against unhailed Luis Collazo. In his next fight, Hatton opted to fight Juan Urango at 140lbs and earned a UD victory, and he followed that with a 4th round KO over shot veteran Jose Luis Castillo again, at [U]140lbs[/B].

              In his next fight at 147lbs, Hatton was knocked out by undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr, and he quickly returned to 140lbs.

              Hatton is a fraud. His walk around weight is close to 40lbs heavier than the weight he chooses to fight at. It's clear to me he's picked 140lbs as his division of choice due to the thin level of competition, and low risk opponets that are to be had there. Thus allowing him to continue to feed his record with opponets, and stand out as a "star" in the boxing world, who cashes in with big money fights.

              I can't wait to see Pacquiao knock this bum out once and for all.
              Seems like everytime I see a new topic by you Bringer I am guaranteed a good read but honestly this time around you are being far too harsh on little Ricky. Is he a little overhyped? yes, but not nearly as much as you make him out to be. His fight with Mayweather showed this. At 147 lbs Hatton made Mayweather very uncomfortable until the middle rounds and then Mayweather shined but he in failing he showed he at least belonged in the fight. Does Hatton blow up like the Skipper between fights? Uh huh, for sure he is truly a lard ass. But he is too small for welter, to big for 135 and simply well suited for 140 lbs, and the weight thing adds a touch of character and comdey to the guy. I mean who dont like to eat and have a few beers or 12?On HAtton being a dirty fighter, yeah Ok but coming from a Hopkins fan (I also am a big Hopkins fan) all I can say is get the **** outta here!

              Look I don't particularly like Hatton's style and in a way I agree with you when assessing his overall talent but I dont think he's quite the turd you make him out to be. Ya know what I mean?

              Comment

              • Alibata
                Dugong Maharlika
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • May 2004
                • 9047
                • 280
                • 33
                • 16,053

                #57
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                Is none of it based in reality though? I try to walk the fine line between hatred and facts. And I think I balanced enough in that post to convey my point.

                Do you think Hatton could be a top 5 fighter at 135lbs right now? Or an top name at 147lbs?
                Here is a fact for you... We all know you are a Marquez fan. Since when has Ricky Hatton's career or worth as boxer ever mattered enough that you would start a campaign to downplay his accomplishments, his skills, his worth as a fighter? Since Marquez' arch rival signed a contract to fight him that is when. If you descredit Pacquiao's opponent early enough, you can take that much more away from Pacquiao's accomplishments if beats this guy you claim isnt worth his weight.. Still does not change the fact that Hatton >>>>>>Diaz...

                Comment

                • ßringer
                  **** Subtlety
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 28180
                  • 2,785
                  • 2,762
                  • 48,350

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                  The victories you used to discredit Hatton go against your argument since all the guys that Hatton beat have gone on to do big things like Urango and Collazo who just arguably beat a guy that is considered by many the heir to the welterweight throne and Hatton arguably beat a better version of that guy too.

                  He just beat a guy that went the distance with Cotto, Hatton KNOCED HIM OUT (he's never been knocked out before).

                  I think you're just a biased hater.
                  What "big things" are you referring to when you mention Collazo and Urango? Because I haven't seen anything "big" from either of them.

                  Collazo had a good dust up against Berto, but he lost. I had him winning by a point, but the closeness of the entire fight lead to a lot of opinion on who won.

                  And nobody considers Berto to be the "heir" to the throne at 147lbs, you're grasping for straws now. He'll be knocked out by any of the top names at 147 including Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Williams, and even Cheatarito when he comes back. I doubt he could even convincingly beat a second stringer like Quintana right now.

                  And you're really grasping for straws with Hatton knocking out Paulie. That was the lamest stoppage of recent times. To be knocked out, you should probably either be out on your feet, or out on your ass, Paulie was neither.

                  McGirt is a moron for throwing the towel.

                  Comment

                  • brently1979
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1226
                    • 154
                    • 441
                    • 13,535

                    #59
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    I gotta tell you, I don't really like the "honorary Mexican" thing either. Honorary my ass, says who? Every Mexican fan I've ever conversed with hates his style.

                    I was ashamed my boy Barrera walked to the ring with him for the Castillo fight.
                    I agree. Hatton doesn't resemble a Mexican style fighter, he resembles a UFC or MMA style fighter.

                    I can't remember who called Hatton a "Honorary Mexican" Maybe it was his promoter.

                    Comment

                    • ßringer
                      **** Subtlety
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 28180
                      • 2,785
                      • 2,762
                      • 48,350

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Alibata
                      Here is a fact for you... We all know you are a Marquez fan. Since when has Ricky Hatton's career or worth as boxer ever mattered enough that you would start a campaign to downplay his accomplishments, his skills, his worth as a fighter? Since Marquez' arch rival signed a contract to fight him that is when. If you descredit Pacquiao's opponent early enough, you can take that much more away from Pacquiao's accomplishments if beats this guy you claim isnt worth his weight.. Still does not change the fact that Hatton >>>>>>Diaz...
                      This is nothing to do with Marquez. Can you forget the fact that I am a fan of Juan Manuel for a moment, and do some research first?

                      I've been shouting that Hatton is overrated ever since the Lazcano fight. Search for posts by me, including the word "Hatton" and read up.

                      I'm glad he's fighting Manny, I'll be happy to finally see him dusted off once and for all.

                      Maybe Juan and Manny can tag team the 140 divison together and wipe out the other second stringers like Bradley, Holt, and Malignaggi instead. The division is a cesspool.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP