The truth about Ricky Hatton

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  • Fulcrum29
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    #61
    Originally posted by The_Bringer
    What "big things" are you referring to when you mention Collazo and Urango? Because I haven't seen anything "big" from either of them.

    Collazo had a good dust up against Berto, but he lost. I had him winning by a point, but the closeness of the entire fight lead to a lot of opinion on who won.

    And nobody considers Berto to be the "heir" to the throne at 147lbs, you're grasping for straws now. He'll be knocked out by any of the top names at 147 including Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Williams, and even Cheatarito when he comes back. I doubt he could even convincingly beat a second stringer like Quintana right now.

    And you're really grasping for straws with Hatton knocking out Paulie. That was the lamest stoppage of recent times. To be knocked out, you should probably either be out on your feet, or out on your ass, Paulie was neither.

    McGirt is a moron for throwing the towel.
    YOU'RE really grasping at straws and revealing your biased AGENDA as a ****** hater when you say that Paulie wasn't stopped because he was, sound bitter that Hatton was able to do what Cotto couldn't.

    Urango just won the IBF belt by beating Ngoudjo you dumb ****. You're really just a hater with baseless claims.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #62
      Originally posted by brently1979
      I agree. Hatton doesn't resemble a Mexican style fighter, he resembles a UFC or MMA style fighter.

      I can't remember who called Hatton a "Honorary Mexican" Maybe it was his promoter.
      Greco-Roman wrestling is how I would describe Hatton's style.

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      • Tmb04
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        #63
        That's Hilairious! Me and my brother had the same EXACT talk about Hatton the other day. If anything he's a good B Class Pressure fighter. But if he fights ANY A class fighter lighter or heavier that his pressure style won't work. I don't wanna take anything away from Hatton but The only "Prime" A Class fighter he fought dusted him off. He bulit a record of 40 sumthing wins mainly by fighting club fighters. Yea other people do too, difference is Hatton thinks that makes him "The Man" at 140 when truth be told there is no competion there. And it's not like he cleaned out his untalented division either. Even if he's "The Man", do something that ain't no one did since B-Hop and Get all 4 belts around your waist. That's when you can call yourself "The Man" at your weight class. Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Pacquiao, Marquez hell and maybe even Clottey or Berto would dust Hatton off. Fight Competion in other weight classes to call yourself p4p. Otherwise try and unify the belts. He should target the Holt-Bradley Winner when he loses to Pacman

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        • Steak
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          #64
          no offense meant to Hatton, but if you threw the guy up against the other top fighters of all time at 140, he would probebly lose to almost all of them. think about it.
          JCC by TKO
          Tsyzu(prime) by Decision
          Pryor by TKO
          etc...

          I even see him losing to someone like Juan Martin Coggi, who hit pretty damn hard, had a good shoulder roll and was a southpaw.

          not that thats an embarressment, not many fighters would win against those kind of opponents. Hatton is a top level fighter, and deserves respect.

          but hes only so good. that being said, I think he has a decent chance against Pacquiao, because Pacquiao doesnt fight his way out of clinches well from what Ive seen, and thats basically all that Hatton does.

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          • ßringer
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            #65
            Originally posted by Fulcrum29
            YOU'RE really grasping at straws and revealing your biased AGENDA as a ****** hater when you say that Paulie wasn't stopped because he was, sound bitter that Hatton was able to do what Cotto couldn't.

            Urango just won the IBF belt by beating Ngoudjo you dumb ****. You're really just a hater with baseless claims.
            I give less than a **** about Cotto.

            The stoppage was lame and everybody who saw it knows it. Paulie was pissed and he protested profusely afterwards.

            But hey, I don't give a **** about Paulie either. He's another overrated fighter who's benefitting from a weak division if you ask me.

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            • Oasis_Lad
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              #66
              Wh@t a fr8kin' h9ter.

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              • ßringer
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                #67
                Originally posted by OASIS_LAD
                Wh@t a fr8kin' h9ter.
                What'd you do? Come up for air?

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                • Alibata
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  This is nothing to do with Marquez. Can you forget the fact that I am a fan of Juan Manuel for a moment, and do some research first?

                  I've been shouting that Hatton is overrated ever since the Lazcano fight. Search for posts by me, including the word "Hatton" and read up.

                  I'm glad he's fighting Manny, I'll be happy to finally see him dusted off once and for all.

                  Maybe Juan and Manny can tag team the 140 divison together and wipe out the other second stringers like Bradley, Holt, and Malignaggi instead. The division is a cesspool.
                  I'll give you the benifit of the doubt, but I still think your being to harsh on Hatton...He got an ugly ugly win againts Kostya but he still won, he recently out boxed and tkoed Paulie who took Cotto to the judges. Castillo was shot but if Hatton was just your typical above average fighter, he wouldn't have knocked out a guy of that Caliber in that fashion... Other fighters he fought went on and shown their worth post Hatton. Floyd was the only dude to beat him at 147.. I am a big Pac fan and would be hard pressed to guarantee a victory like most of you do.. I think Pac will have his hands full and this fight can play into a scenario that leads right into Ricky's hands among other possible senarios.

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                  • $partacus
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                    #69
                    You guys saying he's B class are going to look like fools if he beats Pacquiao.

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                    • warp1432
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The_Bringer
                      Dude, you're starting to piss me off. First you say I picked Hatton when I didn't (you can use the search feature for posts by me containing the word "Hatton"), and then you confuse me with the psychotic internet loser who claimed to be a famous actor Addison?

                      This is not the way to build a friendship.
                      You love me and you know it It's ok to dislike Hatton and be friends with me. Dwiens can't stand him, but we get along well haha. Anyway, back to your points

                      Phillips, Castillo, and Maussa I really don't rate at all. Maybe that's ignorance on my part.

                      Urango seems to finally be creating some noise of his own in the division, so I'll hold off on him until he makes or breaks it. It's too early to tell right now.

                      Malignaggi can't crack an egg, and he's most famous for what? Getting his ass beaten and his orbital bone broken by Cotto. He's also probably the dumbest fighter on the face of the planet. (Hey guys, let's get fake dreadlocks before a big fight on TV!)

                      That said, you're correct about him, he was the #2 in the division at the time Hatton fought him, and he is a solid win.

                      The Collazo fight, I thought Ricky lost. But it was close enough I could see it being scored for Hatton as well. Solid win, that one.

                      The Tszyu fight was nothing but a showcase of fouls and illegal moves. I don't see how you can say it was a showcase for Hatton's skillset and abilities. Granted, Tszyu more than did his share of illegal things as well. But Hatton fouled the living **** out of Tszyu right back. I thought it was a horribly ugly fight.
                      Phillips was a nice proving test that was a nice step up for Hatton. Off topic, but Phillips really had some nice wins after he KOd Tszyu.

                      Malignaggi took a physical beating, but he still managed to win rounds off of Cotto. Malignaggi one only one round against Hatton. It was a pretty solid performance in which Hatton was more controlled then normal.

                      Maussa had beaten Vivian Harris, who got completely owned after talking so much **** the press conference before the fight. Then Ricky beat him. That's a quality win.

                      As for the Tszyu fight, it was ugly, but Ricky forced his way on the inside. Really tore down Tszyu's body and overwhelmed him with punches. He looked pretty fast doing so and even though it was foul filled (which is part of Hatton's skill set. He knows how to do it), he impressed (me at least) doing so.

                      I mean BlackIrish brings a really good point. I don't think I'd pick Ricky over the 140 greats, but he's still a great fighter imo. At least certainly bad as this thread points him out to be.

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