Joe Calzaghes 21 Title defenses

[hammerhiem]

Brewer, Mitchell and sheika are not bums, they are just average or above average fighters.

Yes if you rank him by division he did face everyone. But you know as well as i know (you admitted as much) that the division is and historically has been : garbage.

Not his fault? Sure you can argue that. I'm not placing blame on the guy, it might not be his fault, it might be: whatever.

But his fanboy legions def. have tried to make him out to be an ATG. Hell Joe himself has tried to claim that with his bull**** "legend killer" talk.

SMW was garbage, still is truth be known, but so was LHW at the time really once you got below the top 2. I don't rate Johnson any higher than Brewer and he was top 3 for ages.

I mean when Erdei is top 5 in a division you can't be claiming any sort of strength really...

The blame for Calzaghes resume is 25% division, 25% Warren, 50% Calzaghe after all it's HIS resume, it's his recponcibility.

the thing is the guy will probably never leave the UK and rarely leave wales where he IS a legend so I'm sure he doesn't really care about us picking apart his resume, he strikes me as being very introverted.

[IMDAZED]

SMW was garbage, still is truth be known, but so was LHW at the time really once you got below the top 2. I don't rate Johnson any higher than Brewer and he was top 3 for ages.

I mean when Erdei is top 5 in a division you can't be claiming any sort of strength really...

The blame for Calzaghes resume is 25% division, 25% Warren, 50% Calzaghe after all it's HIS resume, it's his recponcibility.

the thing is the guy will probably never leave the UK and rarely leave wales where he IS a legend so I'm sure he doesn't really care about us picking apart his resume, he strikes me as being very introverted.

Huh? LHW was world's better than 168 at the time. Erdei only became top five a few years ago. From 97-2005 SMW couldn't even sniff LHW.

[bsrizpac]

SMW was garbage, still is truth be known, but so was LHW at the time really once you got below the top 2. I don't rate Johnson any higher than Brewer and he was top 3 for ages.

I mean when Erdei is top 5 in a division you can't be claiming any sort of strength really...

The blame for Calzaghes resume is 25% division, 25% Warren, 50% Calzaghe after all it's HIS resume, it's his recponcibility.

the thing is the guy will probably never leave the UK and rarely leave wales where he IS a legend so I'm sure he doesn't really care about us picking apart his resume, he strikes me as being very introverted.

Yeah I gotta umm...disagree with you there. LHW was a LOT better than SMW.

Unless of course you think guys like Virgil Hill were garbage.

That being said yes you are correct, SMW was garbage.

[Xplosivo]

SMW was garbage, still is truth be known, but so was LHW at the time really once you got below the top 2. I don't rate Johnson any higher than Brewer and he was top 3 for ages.

I mean when Erdei is top 5 in a division you can't be claiming any sort of strength really...

The blame for Calzaghes resume is 25% division, 25% Warren, 50% Calzaghe after all it's HIS resume, it's his recponcibility.

the thing is the guy will probably never leave the UK and rarely leave wales where he IS a legend so I'm sure he doesn't really care about us picking apart his resume, he strikes me as being very introverted.

Light heavyweight was a good division at the time calzaghe was fighting cab drivers at 168

[hammerhiem]

Huh? LHW was world's better than 168 at the time. Erdei only became top five a few years ago. From 97-2005 SMW couldn't even sniff LHW.

2004 ring LHW's

Glen Johnson, Champion
Antonio Tarver
Zsolt Erdei
Roy Jones Jr.
Julio Cesar Gonzalez

2002 Ring LHW's

Roy Jones Jr.
Dariusz Michalczewski
Eric Harding
Reggie Johnson
David Telesco

1998 Ring LHW

Roy Jones Jr.
Dariusz Michalczewski
Reggie Johnson
Graciano Rocchigiani
Lou Del Valle

Your not exactly convincing me that LHW was any good Here IMDAZED, the SWM division might not have had top 2's but face it the nuumber 4/5 on those 3 years picked at random do not exactly scream strength in depth.

[S.G.]

Do they have to be either elite or bums?

Some of those names are solid record bolsterers.

No one's ever claimed Calzaghe's resume was anything special but it's still perfectly respectable

[IMDAZED]

2004 ring LHW's

Glen Johnson, Champion
Antonio Tarver
Zsolt Erdei
Roy Jones Jr.
Julio Cesar Gonzalez

2002 Ring LHW's

Roy Jones Jr.
Dariusz Michalczewski
Eric Harding
Reggie Johnson
David Telesco

1998 Ring LHW

Roy Jones Jr.
Dariusz Michalczewski
Reggie Johnson
Graciano Rocchigiani
Lou Del Valle

Your not exactly convincing me that LHW was any good Here IMDAZED, the SWM division might not have had top 2's but face it the nuumber 4/5 on those 3 years picked at random do not exactly scream strength in depth.

Now post the SMW rankings for those years. And then let's go toe-to-toe. I'm here.

[andrewcuff]

Now post the SMW rankings for those years. And then let's go toe-to-toe. I'm here.

LOL at how boxing terms are being used to define discussions! I'm sure this cropped up in the "How Do You Know You Watch Too Much Boxing..." thread

[hammerhiem]

Light heavyweight was a good division at the time calzaghe was fighting cab drivers at 168

what makes David Telesco, Graciano Rocchigiani, Lou Del Valle, Eric Harding, Julio Cesar Gonzalez, Zsolt Erdei, Glen johnson or Clinton Woods and better than the equivelent top 5 at SMW?

Answer: nothing, both divisions where weak as fcuk.

[IMDAZED]

BTW hammer, was there a method for picking the years? Just curious. Anyway, post those 168 rankings.