Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 all time?

[dde91]

If Pacquiao is a top 20 all time great, then so is B-Hop in my opinion. Hopkins was undisputed middleweight champion took out a PRIME tito, pavlik, Johnson, DLH, fought close matches with Taylor and Calzaghe that many feel he won. Never got knock out or never really got hurt. Also fought Winky Wright and the Light Heavy champ at the time Tarver. And fought a Roy Jones Jr. losing, but got ducked for the next decade plus.

[strugler]

If Pacquiao is a top 20 all time great, then so is B-Hop in my opinion. Hopkins was undisputed middleweight champion took out a PRIME tito, pavlik, Johnson, DLH, fought close matches with Taylor and Calzaghe that many feel he won. Never got knock out or never really got hurt. Also fought Winky Wright and the Light Heavy champ at the time Tarver. And fought a Roy Jones Jr. losing, but got ducked for the next decade plus.

BHOP and pac shouldnt be to far away imho.

[Pacdbest]

You're comparing those wins to Duran fighting Hagler, Leonard, Hearns etc?



How would Pac fare against a prime guy that stands at 6'1 with a 78" reach when he is only 5'7 with a 66" reach when he was already well past thirty while that guy was in his mid-twenties? Someone who is faster than himself and twice as powerful?

You're missing out on one big fact here. Diaz was shorter than Pac. He was a smaller fighter. Moore was twice the damn size of Duran and Diaz did not ever beat anyone as good as Wilfred Benitez or Ayub Kalule, unless you count a broken, shattered Morales moving up once again that good.

Oh dear......this is getting scary.

Duran didn't start at Junior Flyweight, If he did.. I would've judge him differently.

If Williams achived more & become Mainstream, then maybe Pac will have time with him jsut to prove he can beat these Giants. For the meantime Pac will be busy with more accomplished fighter close to his size.

[Pacdbest]

BHOP and pac shouldnt be to far away imho.

If Bhop was Knocking out Cruiser & Heavyweights then Pac & Him will be Close in ATGreatness. Bhop Beating DLH, TIto & Pavlik was like Pac beating Rafa, Vasquez & Juanma. Pac as the smaller man going up to beat the bigger Greats takes more Credit.

[strugler]

Dont worry he is gonna fight adamek next.

[Pacdbest]

Dont worry he is gonna fight adamek next.

But Adamek in not even close to being called HOFamer.

[strugler]

But Adamek in not even close to being called HOFamer.

Man youre an extreme kind of pacfan. no disrespect. Im more of a moderate type. Its inevitable that we have different views how great pac is.

Bhop dominated the middleweight division.
Pac came from flyweight to welterweight?.

Anyway props for your previous posts in the other side forum.

[Pacdbest]

Man youre an extreme kind of pacfan. no disrespect. Im more of a moderate type. Its inevitable that we have different views how great pac is.

Bhop dominated the middleweight division.
Pac came from flyweight to welterweight?.

Anyway props for your previous posts in the other side forum.

Me Myself was so amazed of what I Predicted. My Hobby right now is digging my old Prediction thread in ESB. It's so accurate than I can't find anybody who come close to what I've predicted. They used to call me a delusional Pac nuthugger. I Guess they cannot say the same now.

[strugler]

Me Myself was so amazed of what I Predicted. My Hobby right now is digging my old Prediction thread in ESB. It's so accurate than I can't find anybody who come close to what I've predicted. They used to call me a delusional Pac nuthugger. I Guess they cannot say the same now.

LMAO. youre a legend there i think. youre to extreme for me though, but you hit the donaire and pac odh in the head.

[Pacdbest]

nice post backed up with facts. i got Pac a little lower at # 6 or 7


1. SSR
2. M. ALI
3. HEnry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. SRL
6. MANNY PACQUIAO

If that's your top 6th, I have it like:

1. SRR
2. Armstrong
3.Joe Louis
4. Pac
5. Ali
6. SRL