Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 all time?

**KILLA RIGHT** · 02-23-2009, 04:33 AM

You gotta be ***en kidding me. He barely makes the top 100 if that on most peoples list. He beat erik twice when he was done,jmm got a draw and jmm beat him the second time.beat a washed up oscar and a average fighter in diaz...yup not a top 20 fighter

**mannypac22** · 02-23-2009, 04:43 AM

they r all still great fighters hes better than alot of those guys in the top 20

**KJB** · 02-23-2009, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT

You gotta be ***en kidding me. He barely makes the top 100 if that on most peoples list.

He makes top 100 EASILY on any credible list.
I am not too into hero worship, but it is realistically possible for Manny to make top 20.
I know that isnt going to be a popular opinion, but historically speaking he might be remember in that respect. His next couple of fights will have a lot to do with how he is regarded in the future. If he beats Hatton, has the rubber match with JMM, manages to make the big fight with Valero etc. It could definitely happen.

**hammerhiem** · 02-23-2009, 04:55 AM

He makes top 50 easy, top 30 with a win over Hatton, the guy also has class which is rare in a top 50 boxer, most of the where arrogant twats.

**strugler** · 02-23-2009, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by hammerhiem

He makes top 50 easy, top 30 with a win over Hatton, the guy also has class which is rare in a top 50 boxer, most of the where arrogant twats.

co sign.. if he beats hatton floyd(thats a big if) and cotto easily makes it no matter what bitter haters say.

**Great Afrikan** · 02-23-2009, 05:05 AM

No....

**mrpain81** · 02-23-2009, 05:07 AM

Titles at

112(Original 8 weight class)
122
126(Barrera was the linear and Ring Champion, original 8 weight class)
130
135(Original 8 weight class, beat the current lineal champ)

No other fighter in the history of Boxing has won a title at Feather and Flyweight let alone Flyweight,Feather,Lightweight. It's hard to say where Manny ranks right now but if he keeps winning he will go down as one of the best ever no doubt.

**strugler** · 02-23-2009, 05:10 AM

Actually an ATG list is a very subjective list, anyway lets have this discussion after the hatton fight, or after pac retires its, but i do think in my humble opinion, history will look on Pacman kindly.

**JAB5239** · 02-23-2009, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by mannypac22

The guy has so many great fighters on his resume and those hard fights havent caught up with him yet. If he beats hatton and Mayweather or whoever he fights after hatton then i dont see why not he can kick out some guys like harry greb,Eder Jofre,Sandy Saddler he is a better fighter than all those guys

He's top 50 right now with plenty of time to move up, but it would take a lot to surpass Greb, Jofre or Saddler. Greb and Saddler beat better fighters and Jofre was more dominant in an era of a lot less weight classes and only one champ per. Not saying Manny can't get there, but he needs to do more to pass Jofre in my opinion, and a lot more to pass Saddler. In this day and age with so many weight classes and so many split titles I don't give him much of a chance to pass Greb, who fought a who's who of great fighters and multiple times at that.

Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 all time?