Does Floyd Mayweather Jr. crack the top 50 ATG list?

[andrewcuff]

I would put PBF hovering over the 100 mark. History has too long a history and too many greats have more better opponents and resumes than he has.
Skill wise you would put him higher of course....why not. But you dont judge like that.
Even though he beat Hatton, Hatton will end up higher than him by the end of his career.
So many fights out there for PBF out there, but he isnt taking them. Any opponent PBF beat in his early career is not important because noone knows them. There are better fighters now for him to fight.

Excellent post, green K

[a-raines21]

Pernell shouldn't be above Leonard, but above Roy? Definately. More skills and beat the better opposition. The ordering of that list maybe debateable, but my point was to show that it is easily possible to name 40 greater fighters than Floyd.

If you don't think that is accurate, take out the 40 fighters than you think Floyd is better and lists proper reasons why.

Also, I'm still waiting for that Top 25 ATG list you said you'd put together a few weeks back...

the point is, this list has reberto duran #5 atg, above all the ppl who beat the hell out of him..... there is no way this list makes sense......

also, oscar de la hoya doesn't rank about mayweather.. and mike spinkz doesn't rank higher than tyson.....

that list is the most biased piece of **** ive ever seen!!!!!

atg lists are based on opinion.... therefore there is a good chance that you wont agree with mine

edit: the problem with this **** is that everybody just automatically assumes that fighter from back then are better The fighters today, which is far from the truth. the truth is, most of the fighters from then wouldnt make it in todays boxing...... for example: jake lamotta could not have beaten marvin hagler..... joe louis would not have beaten mike tyson, and yet, they still are ranked higher by every boxing expert... the p4p list is the only one that actually make sense

[andrewcuff]

the point is, this list has reberto duran #5 atg, above all the ppl who beat the hell out of him..... there is no way this list makes sense......

also, oscar de la hoya doesn't rank about mayweather.. and mike spinkz doesn't rank higher than tyson.....

that list is the most biased piece of **** ive ever seen!!!!!

atg lists are based on opinion.... therefore there is a good chance that you wont agree with mine

Duran should be in the Top 10, what the man achieved in his career was amazing.

Skillswise, Mayweather is better than Oscar, but in terms of historical greatness, its debateable.

Its unlikely anyone will completely agree with somebody elses ATG list, but I still want to see your 25 though

[a-raines21]

Duran should be in the Top 10, what the man achieved in his career was amazing.

Skillswise, Mayweather is better than Oscar, but in terms of historical greatness, its debateable.

Its unlikely anyone will completely agree with somebody elses ATG list, but I still want to see your 25 though

so what to you make a fighter an atg? because i base mine on skill, almost like a p4p list..... i rank floyd top 5 p4p, so therefore, he's pretty high on my atg list

[Ishy Aytan]

I would put PBF hovering over the 100 mark. History has too long a history and too many greats have more better opponents and resumes than he has.
Skill wise you would put him higher of course....why not. But you dont judge like that.
Even though he beat Hatton, Hatton will end up higher than him by the end of his career.
So many fights out there for PBF out there, but he isnt taking them. Any opponent PBF beat in his early career is not important because noone knows them. There are better fighters now for him to fight.

One of the worst posts ive read on here about Mayweather.


History has too many greats? Floyd is the greatest fighter to come out of the 00's and Ring have already said he clear cut to win the award next year.

Hatton is a higher ATG than Floyd? Hatton is questionably not even a hall of famer! hahahahahaha. What a joke.

Floyds early opponents are not important because dumb guys like yourselfs who have no knowledge about boxing what so ever.

Floyds victories over Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, Gatti, Corley are not important to clowns like yourselfs as YOU dont know who they are. These are some of Floyds biggest victories and he was p4p champ based on these wins. You are a serious clown if you dont consider Floyds early victories and anyone who agrees with you is also a dumb clown.

Floyd is a top 30 ATG.

[andrewcuff]

so what to you make a fighter an atg? because i base mine on skill, almost like a p4p list..... i rank floyd top 5 p4p, so therefore, he's pretty high on my atg list

I rank fighters on both skill and achievement. If you ranked them on skills alone, you'd have Zab Judah as an ATG. I don't think so!

BTW, the ATG list is P4P! Old time fighters get a lot of credit because there were only 8 weight classes back in the day and only one title. Which makes defending your belt a lot more difficult, especially when you're fighting every few weeks.

Why would Tyson rank above Louis? Joe defended his belt 25 times when there was only ONE HW belt? What has Tyson done to surpass this?

Also Floyd Top 5 ATG? I don't think you will find many people to agree with you there. He may be a skilled fighter, but far from that good.

Show me this Top 25 list then...

[strugler]

Resume > skills in my opinion

[andrewcuff]

One of the worst posts ive read on here about Mayweather.


History has too many greats? Floyd is the greatest fighter to come out of the 00's and Ring have already said he clear cut to win the award next year.

Hatton is a higher ATG than Floyd? Hatton is questionably not even a hall of famer! hahahahahaha. What a joke.

Floyds early opponents are not important because dumb guys like yourselfs who have no knowledge about boxing what so ever.

Floyds victories over Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, Gatti, Corley are not important to clowns like yourselfs as YOU dont know who they are. These are some of Floyds biggest victories and he was p4p champ based on these wins. You are a serious clown if you dont consider Floyds early victories and anyone who agrees with you is also a dumb clown.

Floyd is a top 30 ATG.

His early victories are definately important, but will hurt him is his unwillingness to go for the big challenges at the higher weights. Like I've said before the ATG list is based on skills and achievements, in which case Floyd is coming just short of the Top 50 at the moment.

Like the poster said, there have been too many great fighters in history for Floyd to be put that high on the list when he retired at 30.

[Ishy Aytan]

Hatton is a good fight no doubt, but Tszyu was the man at 140 for years and Floyd didn't fight him. There've been plenty of challenges for the man and he's avoided a lot to protect his "0". No shame in that if you're in it for the money, but it does dent your legacy and AT status.

Some one posted on here a while back a video of Floyd calling out Tszyu. Go back and watch it.


Anyone who blames Floyd for not fighting Tszyu is just plain ******. It takes two guys too make a fight happen.

[a-raines21]

I rank fighters on both skill and achievement. If you ranked them on skills alone, you'd have Zab Judah as an ATG. I don't think so!

BTW, the ATG list is P4P! Old time fighters get a lot of credit because there were only 8 weight classes back in the day and only one title. Which makes defending your belt a lot more difficult, especially when you're fighting every few weeks.

Why would Tyson rank above Louis? Joe defended his belt 25 times when there was only ONE HW belt? What has Tyson done to surpass this?

Also Floyd Top 5 ATG? I don't think you will find many people to agree with you there. He may be a skilled fighter, but far from that good.

Show me this Top 25 list then...

first off sir, can you read?
i said

i rank floyd top 5 p4p

not

i rank floyd top 5 atg

tyson would have beaten joe louis prime for prime and you know this. the only reason joe gets sooo much respect is because he did it a long time ago..... can you deny that mike had more skils than joe louis?

i never said that mike did more than joe louis, i'm just sayin that p4p, mike kicks his ass