Does Floyd Mayweather Jr. crack the top 50 ATG list?

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  • BennyST
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    #21
    Originally posted by zoloft
    u can hate as much as u want but thats the fact..the 0 proves it !
    That means that you must have Marciano and Calzaghe, along with Lopez, Galaxy etc all in the top twenty ATG's right? How can you not, after all, the 0 or basically 0 proves it right?


    How do you get out of this one?



    Anyway, no not for me. He makes the top 100 quite easily but not the top fifty. Just too many great fighters that, while they might not have the 0, did a hell of a lot more.
    Last edited by BennyST; 02-23-2009, 07:06 AM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by andrewcuff
      There have been big challenges at 140, 147 and 154 that Floyd could have taken. ATGs would have, that's all I'm saying. For example, WW Ray Leonard come out of retirement after only fighting once in 5 years to challenge the best MW of all time. That is something ATGs do. I just doing see Floyd having that extra big of "greatness", for lack of a better word
      At 140 Mayweather called out Hatton twice after he beat beating Kostya. Hatton said no twice.
      Oscar was the number ranked Jr MW at the time PBF beat him

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        #23
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        There have been big challenges at 140, 147 and 154 that Floyd could have taken. ATGs would have, that's all I'm saying. For example, WW Ray Leonard come out of retirement after only fighting once in 5 years to challenge the best MW of all time. That is something ATGs do. I just doing see Floyd having that extra big of "greatness", for lack of a better word
        Well some say Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor, and waited forever to fight Hagler, and fought like a ***** against Duran the 2nd time.

        Everyone can have their opinions tho. And 154 was jus to fight Oscar, Floyd aint a junior middleweight at all.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
          At 140 Mayweather called out Hatton twice after he beat beating Kostya. Hatton said no twice.
          Oscar was the number ranked Jr MW at the time PBF beat him
          Hatton is a good fight no doubt, but Tszyu was the man at 140 for years and Floyd didn't fight him. There've been plenty of challenges for the man and he's avoided a lot to protect his "0". No shame in that if you're in it for the money, but it does dent your legacy and AT status.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            Well some say Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor, and waited forever to fight Hagler, and fought like a ***** against Duran the 2nd time.

            Everyone can have their opinions tho. And 154 was jus to fight Oscar, Floyd aint a junior middleweight at all.
            #1 I never understood that one. Pryor fought in a lighter class than Leonard, even befoe Leonard started moving up in weight.

            #2 Leonard was a WW, Hagler was the best MW of all time. I don't think you can really complain that if he was trying to gain any advantage here

            #3 No Floyd isn't a LMW, but he still fought there and started mouthing off how he beats anyone from 154 and under. So it nullifies that answer really

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              #26
              Originally posted by andrewcuff
              Hatton is a good fight no doubt, but Tszyu was the man at 140 for years and Floyd didn't fight him. There've been plenty of challenges for the man and he's avoided a lot to protect his "0". No shame in that if you're in it for the money, but it does dent your legacy and AT status.
              When Mayweather come to 140 division. Kostya was coming of a lay off. And had to 2 mandatories in Jesse James Leija and rematch Mitchell. But by then Hatton had earned his shot at Kostya before Floyd.And he beat him

              This was could never had happened. Even after Kostya lost PBF wanted the fight but released ZOO was not coming back

              Mayweather went on to ask Hatton for a fight and got rejected TWICE

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                #27
                Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                When Mayweather come to 140 division. Kostya was coming of a lay off. And had to 2 mandatories in Jesse James Leija and rematch Mitchell. But by then Hatton had earned his shot at Kostya before Floyd.And he beat him

                This was could never had happened. Even after Kostya lost PBF wanted the fight but released ZOO was not coming back

                Mayweather went on to ask Hatton for a fight and got rejected TWICE
                History will not remember him as you will unfortunately. Which is shame because the man had serious skills.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by andrewcuff
                  #1 I never understood that one. Pryor fought in a lighter class than Leonard, even befoe Leonard started moving up in weight.

                  #2 Leonard was a WW, Hagler was the best MW of all time. I don't think you can really complain that if he was trying to gain any advantage here

                  #3 No Floyd isn't a LMW, but he still fought there and started mouthing off how he beats anyone from 154 and under. So it nullifies that answer really
                  True but there really wasn't anyone at 154 back then except Spinks(and no one wants to see Floyd-Spinks). Maybe Forrest but that fight wouldn't sell at all.

                  Pryor did call out Leonard right in front of him and SRL turned it down basically. I guess Pryor was willing to move up to 147. But Pryor was a high risk low reward fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    History will not remember him as you will unfortunately. Which is shame because the man had serious skills.
                    Just at least know your facts about Mayweather before you speak, It helps me in the future writing all that down

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                      Just at least know your facts about Mayweather before you speak, It helps me in the future writing all that down
                      I know my facts, fanboy. You have proved on here time and time again, it is you who needs to learn more about boxing. I called you on a few things the other day and you disappeared from the thread.

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