I wish Joe Blow had done more in his career...

[Duke McKenzie_]

I'm not sure what point you were making there.

It's blatantly obvious he was making an ANALOGY. Are you thick or what?

[Duke McKenzie_]

Sure, sure.

Sorry, I meant to type "spell checker".

[IMDAZED]

Sorry, I meant to type "spell checker".

No worries.

[AKATheMack]

Am I the only one who finds themself wanting to slap Duke in his grill?

[IMDAZED]

Am I the only one who finds themself wanting to slap Duke in his grill?

I think even worse than trying to take a piss is failing at doing so.

[Duke McKenzie_]

Am I the only one who finds themself wanting to slap Duke in his grill?

**** off out my thread then if you don't like it. Twat.

I'm trying to have a converse with IMDAZED and all I'm getting is glib "I don't care about anyone else's view, I'm right in all things" so I'm abusing him out of boredom.

[AKATheMack]

I think even worse than trying to take a piss is failing at doing so.

Taking a piss is probably tougher.

[IMDAZED]

Taking a piss is probably tougher.

Lol, you're probably right.

[S A M U R A I]

I know John Scully. And I respect his opinion. But to quote Bernard Hopkins - when told that Emmanuel Steward felt he was killing himself to get down to weight for Tito - "Well Emmanuel Steward doesn't know Bernard Hopkins, my body or how I train." It's safe to assume that a fighter who spent nearly all his career in one weight class and usually weighed well under the limit - and was usually OUTWEIGHED by his opponents - is a natural in that class. Or no?

As for Pacquiao, I think it is a stretch to compare a 30lb leap to...four. And that's in the case of Pavlik. I'm not sure what point you were making there.

Right. Let's make a different comparison. This is obviously pure fantasy, but possibly a good example.

Hagler vs. Cotto. One of the greatest middleweights of all time against a really great fighter who has spent virtually all of his time as a force to be reckoned with in the welterweight division.

Cotto moves up from welter to middleweight to fight Hagler. Marvin beats Cotto. Is this a great win because Cotto is highly ranked at the time? Or is it just a good win, seeing as the bigger always SHOULD have beaten the smaller guy anyway? I mean, I don't even undertand why Trinidad was the favorite. He never was the favorite in my book, I predicted humiliation for him at the hands of Hopkins, which is exactly what he got.

It's just the old argument about Hopkins beating up on small guys with big names to make his resume seem more impressive. Calzaghe mentioned it, and thousands of other people have also. Personally, I don't care. I like Hopkins, I'm a fan, but when people mention his wins over a bloated Winky Wright, a smaller Oscar (who also spent his time in lower divisions), and Trinidad who was **** in the higher divisions, AND on top of that, they use this as an an argument as to why Bernard's resume is so much better than Calzaghe's (who at least spent the majority of his career fighting guys his own size), I feel compelled to question it.



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[IMDAZED]

Right. Let's make a different comparison. This is obviously pure fantasy, but possibly a good example.

Hagler vs. Cotto. One of the greatest middleweights of all time against a really great fighter who has spent virtually all of his time as a force to be reckoned with in the welterweight division.

Cotto moves up from welter to middleweight to fight Hagler. Marvin beats Cotto. Is this a great win because Cotto is highly ranked at the time? Or is it just a good win, seeing as the bigger always SHOULD have beaten the smaller guy anyway? I mean, I don't even undertand why Trinidad was the favorite. He never was the favorite in my book, I predicted humiliation for him at the hands of Hopkins, which is exactly what he got.

It's just the old argument about Hopkins beating up on small guys with big names to make his resume seem more impressive. Calzaghe mentioned it, and thousands of other people have also. Personally, I don't care. I like Hopkins, I'm a fan, but when people mention his wins over a bloated Winky Wright, a smaller Oscar (who also spent his time in lower divisions), and Trinidad who was **** in the higher divisions, AND on top of that, they use this as an an argument as to why Bernard's resume is so much better than Calzaghe's (who at least spent the majority of his career fighting guys his own size), I feel compelled to question it.

Nice point except...Trinidad didn't leap from welter to 160.

He moved to 154 where he unified and was the king of the division.

Then moved to 160 where he took out the second best champ in brutal fashion.

Then fought Hopkins...as a fellow champ.