HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

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  • deevel79
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    #71
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    i love this thread. truly.
    Quisqueya aint coming back! He's been run off of his own thread.

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    • THE REED
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      #72
      I love when newer posters think they can come in here and just run it...

      nah....

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      • americanme
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        #73
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        I love when newer posters think they can come in here and just run it...

        nah....
        How am I doing ?

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        • THE REED
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          #74
          your doin good your not trying to run ****.. or come in here and call everyone out

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          • americanme
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            #75
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            your doin good your not trying to run ****.. or come in here and call everyone out
            yeah, I see that's a trend in here.

            Why is that?

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            • THE REED
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              #76
              im not sure.. a lot of people seem to think they know everything...

              i sure dont and neither do they...

              I for instance look up too..

              silencers, themanchine, thread stealer etc etc when it comes to knowing more than me...

              its ok that someone may know more about the sport than you... just learn from them..

              some people cant seem to do that

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              • !! Shawn
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                #77
                Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                Mayweather: Judah (prime), Baldomir, Delahoya (154), Hatton

                Pacquiao: Marquez (prime), Diaz, Delahoya (147), Hatton


                Why is Pacquaio's run celebrated ("ATG"), yet Mayweather's run is belittled ("coward")? Please help me understand.
                You missed Barrera and Morales.

                The fact of the matter is Floyd cherry picked the easiest fights. It is becoming more and more obvious as all of his great wins are being exposed for how weak they really were.

                Judah, Oscar, Baldomir, soon to be Hatton.

                Compare that to Pacquiao where all of his great wins have proven to be even better.

                Not only that, everyone Pacquiao fought was coming off of great performances or went on to have great performances.

                Barrera - Kelly, Tapia, Morales, Hamed
                Morales - Barrera x 3
                Marquez - Barrera, Casamayor

                Now lets look at Floyd's "great" wins.

                Oscar- arguable loss to sturm, hopkins, then poor showing against forbes then obliterated by pac.
                Judah- coming off a loss to Baldomir, followed up with losses to Cotto and Clottey.
                Hatton- Almost knocked out by Collazo, looked like **** against Urango, then was almost KOed by Lazcano
                Baldomir- followed up Floyd fight with a loss to Vernon Forrest and Jackson Bonsu (whoever that is)

                So basically, all of Floyd's "great wins" were coming off of ****ty performances in their last few fights, and went on to have more ****ty performances after they fought Floyd.

                Compare that to Paquiao. All his great wins were coming off of great wins of their own, and went on to have more great wins.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #78
                  They are about even. JMM is the best opponent listed but that is also the closest fight. Oscar is a wash (Floyd fought the better version, but Paciquao beat Oscar much worse). Baldomir is better then Diaz , by a decently wide margin, by about the same ammount that JMM is better then Judah. Will just call Hatton equal also.

                  So to me there is really very little between them based on these fight. Really verry little between them overall when you think about how everything played out. It is always the same though people are either to critical or overly flattering of someone resume, it is all in the eye of the beholder.

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                  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by americanme
                    Actually he was just saying that Floyd retired prime and didnt fight til his late thirties like most fighters do.

                    He could have said 34-35..and his post would have meant the same thing, that he RETIRED IN HIS PRIME.

                    Would it be preferable to fight past your prime?

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                    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      Actually Floyd himself will tell you... weight doesn't win fights... skill does.
                      So, if - IF - Mayweather were to beat Pacquiao, there will be no "size" excuses coming from you. Right?

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