HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

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  • QUISQUEYA
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    HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

    Mayweather: Judah (prime), Baldomir, Delahoya (154), Hatton

    Pacquiao: Marquez (prime), Diaz, Delahoya (147), Hatton


    Why is Pacquaio's run celebrated ("ATG"), yet Mayweather's run is belittled ("coward")? Please help me understand.
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    Prime Judah, Baldomir, Oscar at JMW, Hatton
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    Prime Marquez, Diaz, Oscar at WW, Hatton
    61.54%
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    They're about even.
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    I hate Mayweather and will never give him props. EVER.
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    #2
    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
    Mayweather: Judah (prime), Baldomir, Delahoya (154), Hatton

    Pacquiao: Marquez (prime), Diaz, Delahoya (147), Hatton


    Why is Pacquaio's run celebrated ("ATG"), yet Mayweather's run is belittled ("coward")? Please help me understand.
    Because you were sleeping when Pac fought some of his best.

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    • QUISQUEYA
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      #3
      Originally posted by PerryDplatypus
      Because you were sleeping when Pac fought some of his best.
      Who are you referring to?

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      • THE REED
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        it has to do with him retiring RIGHT in the middle of a FAB 4 Cotto, Margarito, Williams

        and then claiming to be the best... and not retiring when hes 37, 38, 39... but retiring when hes prime, 31...

        This is why Leonard is Great, he fought in the Fab 4, and he came out on top...

        Not only did Floyd not come out in this Fab 4... He refused to even compete.

        SO FAR, anyway...

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          #5
          Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
          Who are you referring to?
          My bad, I thought you were referring to their best wins until I noticed Castillo and Coralles wasn't there.

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          • eno666
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            #6
            Why is Hatton on the Pacman list if they haven't fought yet? You that sure he's gonna win? I think Hatton has a great chance!

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            • QUISQUEYA
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              #7
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              it has to do with him retiring RIGHT in the middle of a FAB 4 Cotto, Margarito, Williams

              and then claiming to be the best... and not retiring when hes 37, 38, 39... but retiring when hes prime, 31...

              This is why Leonard is Great, he fought in the Fab 4, and he came out on top...

              Not only did Floyd not come out in this Fab 4... He refused to even compete.

              SO FAR, anyway...
              Wait a second. Mayweather had 75% of his fights at 135 and below. He is a career SFW/LW. How many SFW's are prime at 33+?

              What weight did Williams/Cotto/Margarito turn pro and/or fight most of their careers?

              If I am saying ANYTHING that isn't factually correct, please let me know.

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                #8
                Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                Wait a second. Mayweather had 75% of his fights at 135 and below. He is a career SFW/LW. How many SFW's are prime at 33+?

                What weight did Williams/Cotto/Margarito turn pro and/or fight most of their careers?

                If I am saying ANYTHING that isn't factually correct, please let me know.
                what difference does it make? he fought oscar de la hoya who fought at middleweight... and fought him at JMW... why cant he fight the best at WW... if your saying those fighters are too big, why did he fight Oscar? Are you saying Cotto is bigger than Oscar?

                and just because when he was in his twenties he fought at a lighter weight, doesnt mean you cant grow into a heavier weight naturally...

                he is not a natural 135 lber anymore.

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                • QUISQUEYA
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by eno666
                  Why is Hatton on the Pacman list if they haven't fought yet? You that sure he's gonna win? I think Hatton has a great chance!
                  I'm talking about the "quality of opposition". And, no. As much as I love Pac, I think Hatton beats him.

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                  • QUISQUEYA
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    what difference does it make? he fought oscar de la hoya who fought at middleweight... and fought him at JMW... why cant he fight the best at WW... if your saying those fighters are too big, why did he fight Oscar? Are you saying Cotto is bigger than Oscar?

                    and just because when he was in his twenties he fought at a lighter weight, doesnt mean you cant grow into a heavier weight naturally...

                    he is not a natural 135 lber anymore.
                    I'm saying that smaller fighters age faster. If you don't know that as a general rule, then I'd have to respectfully coach you on this.

                    To ask why Mayweather doesn't fight until he's 37,38,39 is not reasonable. Please tell me the career SFW/LW's who were still effective at 35+.

                    Again, help me understand: Pac walks into the ring at 147, and he's a natural LW. Mayweather walks into the ring at 147, and he's a natural WW. Please clarify.

                    Note: are you SURE you want to reference Oscar's resume at MW? In my eyes, DLH was 0-2, with a KO.

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