HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

[MANGLER]

Pac's wins are better imo. JMM is Pac's nemesis, DLH was supposed to kill him, and Hatton would be an all out war for anotha linear title. Diaz was only impressive for the performance, not the caliber of the opponent.

No one logically doubted PBF would win his listed fights. PBF should still get credit for beatin Zab, Baldo, DLH, and Hatton tho.

[QUISQUEYA]

I know why he fought Oscar, but defending Floyd for not fighting true welterweight threats because he is a natural SFW, after he just fought a 5' 11" Oscar whose fought AT Middleweight is ridiculous.

There is no defense of anybody. The whole point is to judge fighters on even footing.

What seems ridiculous is to punish a fighter who chooses to consistently campaign above his weight...and laud fighters who will only/mostly fight smaller guys.

BTW, when's the last time Tony fought somebody his size? How'd that go? How anxious is he to do it again?

[americanme]

There is no defense of anybody. The whole point is to judge fighters on even footing.

What seems ridiculous is to punish a fighter who chooses to consistently campaign above his weight...and laud fighters who will only/mostly fight smaller guys.

BTW, when's the last time Tony fought somebody his size? How'd that go? How anxious is he to do it again?

he knocked out Kermit Cintron.

[THE REED]

There is no defense of anybody. The whole point is to judge fighters on even footing.

What seems ridiculous is to punish a fighter who chooses to consistently campaign above his weight...and laud fighters who will only/mostly fight smaller guys.

BTW, when's the last time Tony fought somebody his size? How'd that go? How anxious is he to do it again?

What seems ridiculous is to insist that a fighter cannot grow into a heavier weight naturally 10 years later.

Toney? Toney would fight anybody... hed fight Wlad willingly right now if given the opportunity...

[HappyBoxingFan]

Pac DOMINATED a Prime Barerra.

Pac lost a solid decision to a still-good Morales, then KO'd a clearly faded Morales.

Pac fought mostly even with JMM. Some will tell you that Pac lost both fights. Or at least the second fight. I feel Pac won BOTH on the strength of the KD's. JMM would have won, but couldn't keep his butt off the canvas.

So Morales "clearly faded" in less than a years time at the ripe old age of 29. Why discount what are truly extraordinary accomplishments. I don't get it.

[deevel79]

You really dont know why he fought Oscar???

I can think of over 40 million reasons.

Well actually, Floyd made $26mil after all was said and done. He said so himself when he was asked on the Jay Leno show. Not that i matters to me, but i just want the stats to be accurate.

[deevel79]

What seems ridiculous is to insist that a fighter cannot grow into a heavier weight naturally 10 years later.

Toney? Toney would fight anybody... hed fight Wlad willingly right now if given the opportunity...

I heard no moaning and complaining when Floyd opted to Face Baldomir and Oscar. 2 fighters that clearly outweighed him on fight night. Yet when asked why he didnt fight Marg or Cotto, the weight excuses come flying!

[THE REED]

I heard no moaning and complaining when Floyd opted to Face Baldomir and Oscar. 2 fighters that clearly outweighed him on fight night. Yet when asked why he didnt fight Marg or Cotto, the weight excuses come flying!

Actually Floyd himself will tell you... weight doesn't win fights... skill does.

[deevel79]

Actually Floyd himself will tell you... weight doesn't win fights... skill does.

Floyd has also went on the record to say that he'll face anybody from 154 on down. Do u recall? So if he aint complaining about the weight, why are his fanboys???

[THE REED]

Please tell me the career SFW/LW's who were still effective at 35+.

Hmm.... uh ....... Duran, maybe?

And why are you talking about 35, when Floyd is 31 and has been retired for a year?

Jeffries is also awaiting your response.