HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

[deevel79]

Jeffries is also awaiting your response.

Quisqueya getting owned in his own thread! LOL

[Mr. Ryan]

Have you seen the difference between how Pacquiao has beaten his best opposition and how De La Hoya has?

[Ishy Aytan]

Weights not the reason why he did'nt face the top welter... he was gona face Cotto if he didnt retire. Roger Mayweather said after the De La Hoya rematch he'd face Cotto... But none happened as he retired before hand.

He didnt face them because none had enough money, he was always gona make more money fighting Hatton than fighting Marg, Cotto, Mosley etc etc...

Thats really the reason he didnt face them.

[THE REED]

Weights not the reason why he did'nt face the top welter... he was gona face Cotto if he didnt retire. Roger Mayweather said after the De La Hoya rematch he'd face Cotto... But none happened as he retired before hand.

He didnt face them because none had enough money, he was always gona make more money fighting Hatton than fighting Marg, Cotto, Mosley etc etc...

Thats really the reason he didnt face them.

Which is a bull**** reason, when your touting yourself as the best ever.

The best fighters ever didn't prove they were the best by the money they made, they proved they were the best by beating all other competition.

If Floyd would just stop talking about how great he is, Im sure none of us would even have a problem with him.

I am a fan of Floyd in the ring... I love the way he out thinks and dissects his opponents, but claiming to be the best while in a division loaded to the brink, and fighting none of them is just too much for me.

[IMDAZED]

Mayweather: Judah (prime), Baldomir, Delahoya (154), Hatton

Pacquiao: Marquez (prime), Diaz, Delahoya (147), Hatton

Why is Pacquaio's run celebrated ("ATG"), yet Mayweather's run is belittled ("coward")? Please help me understand.

Those aren't even Mayweather's best wins.

[Jim Jeffries]

Jeffries is also awaiting your response.

Mosley had a pretty impressive run at LW (you might even say a career.) Moved up to WW at the age of 28.

Floyd's first fight at WW. Hmmmmm.... 28 also.

Mosley is still a top 5 WW at 37 after winning titles at WW and JMW.

[americanme]

Wait a second. Mayweather had 75% of his fights at 135 and below. He is a career SFW/LW. How many SFW's are prime at 33+?

What weight did Williams/Cotto/Margarito turn pro and/or fight most of their careers?

If I am saying ANYTHING that isn't factually correct, please let me know.

that percentage would change had he NOT RETIRED AT 30

Marg turned pro at 135 and Cotto at 140.

[TintaBoricua]

This is how i see it.

Prime Marquez > Prime Judah

Diaz = Baldomir

Pac coming up to 147 to fight Oscar > Floyd coming up to 154 to fight Oscar

Pac facing Hatton at 140 > Floyd facing Hatton at 147

You made it clear right there.

Marquez undoubtedly better than Judah...as for the rest, yeah I agree with everything there.

[THE REED]

Mosley had a pretty impressive run at LW (you might even say a career.) Moved up to WW at the age of 28.

Floyd's first fight at WW. Hmmmmm.... 28 also.

Mosley is still a top 5 WW at 37 after winning titles at WW and JMW.

Yeah, well his whole point is null and void altogether being that Floyd retired at 30/31 years old in the middle of his prime.

[THE REED]

i love this thread. truly.