HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

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The 2nd option to me.

[FasTHarD]

you seriously trying to sit there and say Zab Judah was in his PRIME when he fought Floyd? unbelievable.. Manny Pacquiao has already fought and beaten guys that are WAYYYY better than anyone Mayweather has faced since Diego Corrales and that's for real. he came up from 108 pounds to 147 and along the way he managed to face and destroy everyone Floyd conveniently didn't fight while he was in those lower weights. beating Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Erik Morales twice and Juan Manuel Marquez once he's managed to out do Mayweather's resume for the last 6-8 years. while Mayweather was fighting the Gatti's and Mitchell's of the world Pacquiao was taking on REAL legit threats, ONLY the best while Floyd cherry picked his bouts very carefully and cautiously so to even put Floyd Mayweather's name in the same paragraph as Manny Pacquiao is just plain ******, it was only smart marketing that made Floyd the best but truthfully he didn't deserve to be the best, it was gift wrapped for him because it was obvious he isn't facing the best of the best while others are..

skillwise Floyd is better than Manny but the skills don't win the fights it's how you USE the skills and WHO you've beaten with those skills, Floyd can be as skilled as he wants but it wont matter until he puts it to the test against a real threat. he took on Hatton at a weight where Luis Collazo beat the **** out of him and showed the world that Hatton doesn't belong in Welterweight, what does Floyd go and do? he baits Hatton back up to Welterweight, a weight that, once again, Hattoin had prior shown he didn't belong in and to no surprise he won. he tried the same **** with Cotto at 140, at his worst he was willing to accept airplane peanuts to fight him but at his best he suddenly doesn't bring enough bread to the mix, straight hipocrite..

lastly if Manny beats Hatton then he will have beaten the best 2 names on Floyd's last 8 fights, add those 2 names to Marquez, Barrera and Morales and I think it will be pretty clear who is the proven best out of the 2. skills only take you so far, it's certainly not criteria to be awarded best pound for pound fighter, it helps but pound for pound goes to the guy who fought the best and beat them, Pacquiao has done this year in and year out but due to promotions and bull**** talking Floyd overshadowed Manny, now that is over.. Manny is the BEST pound for pound fighter in the world regardless whether Floyd had retired or not due to his fearlessness, his will to be the best by beating the best and not choosing only money fights. you say u want to understand right? so understand this, Marquez alone is better than Floyd's last 5 opponents merged into 1 big body, like seriously man this isn't even debateable and I don't understand your confusion, it's clear as day why Pacquiao gets more credit because when the people demanded he fights someone he gave them what they pay for like a real champion and didn't give out excuses not to face the men that stand before him whether money or reputation. this sport is about fighting it isn't a talk show and so far Floyd has done nothing but talk when the time has come to face the best men in HIS OWN weight class..

Daeym mate.... Nobody tops this one.... Very well said...

[QUISQUEYA]

you seriously trying to sit there and say Zab Judah was in his PRIME when he fought Floyd? unbelievable.. ..

So, if Judah wasn't in his prime for Mayweather, when WAS Judah in his prime?

[americanme]

So, if Judah wasn't in his prime for Mayweather, when WAS Judah in his prime?

you say "prime" Judah like it means something..

beating Judah isnt nothing to write home about EVEN when Floyd did it.

Zoo Ko'd him and Baldo beat him of all people in his last fight before he fought Mayweather,

Being considered the best P4P fighter in the world and beating Judah means Squat.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

beating Judah isnt nothing to write home about EVEN when Floyd did it.
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

Soooooo, what impressive wins does Tszyu have? What impressive wins did Cotto have other than Shane?

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Mayweather: Judah (prime), Baldomir, Delahoya (154), Hatton

Pacquiao: Marquez (prime), Diaz, Delahoya (147), Hatton

Why is Pacquaio's run celebrated ("ATG"), yet Mayweather's run is belittled ("coward")? Please help me understand.

I think it has something to do with Pac formerly fighting at 106 lbs.

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it has to do with him retiring RIGHT in the middle of a FAB 4 Cotto, Margarito, Williams

and then claiming to be the best... and not retiring when hes 37, 38, 39... but retiring when hes prime, 31...

This is why Leonard is Great, he fought in the Fab 4, and he came out on top...

Not only did Floyd not come out in this Fab 4... He refused to even compete.

SO FAR, anyway...

Double Standards.

Mayweather is 10lbs smaller and a few inches smaller (minus Cotto) than the guys you mentioned. Leonard was not (except for Hearns)

With the exception of Hearns, the fab 4 were legitimate greats by the time LEoanrd fought them (with the exception of Hearns past their primes). Those you mentioned are up and comer. (And Margarito and Williams are only freaks of nature in the scheme of boxing, effective yes but the word fab 4 should not be thrown around so easy)

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I think it has something to do with Pac formerly fighting at 106 lbs.

Manny fought at 106 when he was 16/17 years old. When Floyd was 16 years old, he won the National Golden Gloves. Guess at what weight?

106.

[mellow_mood]

Manny fought at 106 when he was 16/17 years old. When Floyd was 16 years old, he won the National Golden Gloves. Guess at what weight?

106.

PRO AND AMATEUr

ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS

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PRO AND AMATEUr

ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS

bodyweight is bodyweight is bodyweight

if anything you weigh in same day for ams (but that was prolly the case for manny's first pro fights as well)