HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

They are about even. JMM is the best opponent listed but that is also the closest fight. Oscar is a wash (Floyd fought the better version, but Paciquao beat Oscar much worse). Baldomir is better then Diaz , by a decently wide margin, by about the same ammount that JMM is better then Judah. Will just call Hatton equal also.

So to me there is really very little between them based on these fight. Really verry little between them overall when you think about how everything played out. It is always the same though people are either to critical or overly flattering of someone resume, it is all in the eye of the beholder.

A knowledgeable man delivers the correct answer. Kudos....and karma.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

So basically, all of Floyd's "great wins" were coming off of ****ty performances in their last few fights, and went on to have more ****ty performances after they fought Floyd.

Compare that to Paquiao. All his great wins were coming off of great wins of their own, and went on to have more great wins.

Including Corrales and Castillo. Right?

[warp1432]

Not to mention Baldomir looked great against Judah and Gatti. De La Hoya looked like he still had it against Mayorga. Hatton demloished Castillo.

As for the topic on hand, I'm more impressed with Pacquiao I guess. Mayweather, I think he has a good resume above, but the way Pacquiao destoryed DLH was impressive. I think Mayweather's knockout of Hatton will be more impressive, if Pacquiao knocks him out.

I'll vote for about even because I thought Pacquiao lost to Marquez and Diaz is not good.

[Flawless.]

Pacman gets credit beating Hatton at Jr WW more than Mayweather at WW. I have no problem there. But Mayweather gets no credit beating Oscar at Jr MW but Pacman gets credit beating Oscar at WW, a divison he had not fought in 7 years.

[Flawless.]

JMM > Zab
Baldomir > Diaz
Oscar Jr MW > Oscar WW
Hatton Jr WW > Hatton WW

Its even

But Mayweather beat Judah easily. Pacman has two gifts against JMM

[!! Shawn]

Including Corrales and Castillo. Right?

Oh please, you are not going to try and argue that Castillo and Corrales compare to Marquez Barrera or Morales are you?

Even though I love him to death, Chico is not a particularly great fighter. Very exciting huge heart, but never on the A+ level.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Oh please, you are not going to try and argue that Castillo and Corrales compare to Marquez Barrera or Morales are you?

Even though I love him to death, Chico is not a particularly great fighter. Very exciting huge heart, but never on the A+ level.

I'm not going to argue anything. But I'll discuss anything you like.

Chico was a top 5 p4p fighter, prime and undefeated when Mayweather beat him. I believe that speaks for itself.

Side Question: if Zab Judah is such garbage, then why is Kostya Tszyu great?

[Brandish]

I know why he fought Oscar, but defending Floyd for not fighting true welterweight threats because he is a natural SFW, after he just fought a 5' 11" Oscar whose fought AT Middleweight is ridiculous

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at what age did sugar ray leonard retire...and what was the reason for him retiring.

you sound like a noob, it wis well documented that floyd was considering retiring after fighting baldomir due to his hand problems

sugar ray retired at an earlier age then floyd due to his eye, fighters have to retire early due to injuries.

I thought you would know this. instead of throwing up deevel's weak ass arguments.

[Brandish]

Oh please, you are not going to try and argue that Castillo and Corrales compare to Marquez Barrera or Morales are you?

Even though I love him to death, Chico is not a particularly great fighter. Very exciting huge heart, but never on the A+ level.

I will defintiely compare them.

pac went 1-2 against morales who was not a great 130lb fighter.. morales prime was 122. that is his legacy. pac just caught him at the time he had outgrown 130. that is why roach insisted the third fight be at 130 when it was clear morales was not in any way capable of making the weight anymore.
pac did not fight morales in his prime which was 122.

pac went 02 against barrera so did junior jones who looked much better then pac in beating barrera twice..nuff said.

pac went 1-1 agaisnt marquez who everyone is acting like is a great fighter..first off marquez is 7-2 in championship fights (he is 34) as compared to zab judah who is 16-6..no ****ing comparison... marquez's biggest win is a washed up marco barrera

floyd on the other hand fought the toughest fighters in their prime weight...genaro, castillo, corrales, chavez, hernandez, were all in their prime's when floyd defeated and in most cases annihilated them.

pac can't say the same on any level.

barrera prime weight--122
morales prime weight--122
marquez prime weight--126

pac is cherry picking that is why he didn't step up and face nate campbell at 135 and instead went for the weakest champ in david diaz.

I wonder why ricky reed and deveel haven't addressed this.

if you want to say a 31 year old floyd in his fourth weight class with two bad hands ducked a guy with 5 losses in margarito go ahead but I got my belt out ready to whip some ass

[Brandish]

Side Question: if Zab Judah is such garbage, then why is Kostya Tszyu great?

welcome back dios

I think a better question would be why does zab have more championship fights then marquez and more title defenses. marquez is 34 yerars old and is 7-2 in championship fights..zab is 31 and is 16-6.

I dare the haters to address this