Holyfield says Joe Louis couldn't make it in boxing today

[QueensburyRules]

- - Last I checked it was Field throwing himself out of the ring vs Belfort, the worst boxing performance by a HOFer in history. Wouldn't pass a highway trooper Drunk Driving screening.

What grade U boy in this year?

[HandsofIron]

Yes I agree with Holyfield.

[elfag]

joe luis would either be a cruiser or light heavy or if he "moved up" to heavyweight it would be under PEDs like evan fields did himself. so not really makes sense to compare eras when luis was like 200-205 in the pre PED era.

[Ascended]

Why did crazy idiots say holy was wrong when he wasnt none of those dudes would make pro 70s-90s not with how they fought stiff slow movement and missing advances

[Ascended]

So Louis couldnt make it today, but people like Sam Peter and John Ruiz can?


Maybe it should be 'Imagine how great Joe Louis could have been if he were around today' .

The technical knowledge about how to fight and prepare is much more advanced than it was. It was more about being tough, now skill beats toughness, and speed and movement beats power.

Only a few of the great trainers back then had the kind of boxing know-how that is general knowledge in any gym today.

This comment is dumb what do you mean ruiz and sam can they move way better on their feet and use more angles to punch from and aren't slow joe was all the reverse so no joe couldn't try watching matches idiot

[Silence]

Louis couldn't even beat Briedis let alone super heavyweights.

[Ascended]

Hollyfield would tear up Joe. You couldn't even tear up John Ruiz.

Dumb comment holy lost reflexes by then wasnt as sharp a inshape holy destroys him and yea holy would destroy joe he was stiff slow and missing advances so stop you idiot

[Ascended]

Louis couldn't even beat Briedis let alone super heavyweights.

Facts look at these names bowe razor fury
Anthony foreman ali usyk mike evender Frazier ruiz deontay canelo judah byrd and I can name many other mid/high level fighters that would destroy him in the 1st or 2nd and that whole era and the era's before his time they all were trash compared to these years 70s-now

[Ascended]

Of course what Holyfield is saying is just his opinion. He took the hard road and fought everyone, so he earned his right to his opinion.

You need to remember that in his time, he probably heard others opinions on what Joe would do to him practically every day. When you work your ass off, but still get popular opinion against you regarding the all time greats, it can make someone a little bitter.

On that note I will say Holyfield would have given any heavyweight in history a real fight. His heart and determination is up there with the best of them.

How is it opinion if its fact on video joe and his whole era were trash compared to 70s-90s look how they moved in Joe's time and before where is the opinion at

[Ascended]

Well then you don't understand boxing or the evolution of the fighters, the evolution of sport, they are all better in the modern era, faster more explosive better stamina and bigger athletes with better science, obviously, a Joe Louis would do well in any era but could he make the same legend impact that he did in his time, I doubt it.

Wrong joe wouldnt do good without advancing his skills and movement