Holyfield says Joe Louis couldn't make it in boxing today

[paulf]

Obviously true.

Boxers are like guitar players - each generation builds on the prior ounces advances in technique and training methods. Any average popular guitarist kid on YouTube could play circles around Jimi Hendrix.

You look at someone like Jim Jefferies and everyone can agree his technique/skillset is laughable, he'd be getting blown out of the ring in the opening fight of a ShoBox card if he stepped through a time machine into today.

But when it comes to applying that OBVIOUS gap due to advances technique and technique, not to mention a century of advances in nutrition, to fighters like Johnson up through Ali, people have a serious mental block.

They prefer to live in their fantasies.

[garfios]

Why does he need anything why can't we drop him how he was

Because it was a different era. If you going to talk, a least put both on the same level field. Take hollyfield back to the 30's to see how he does. Comparing athletes of different eras is pointless. The environment, the way they train, what they eat, everything is different. That is where we learn from, history.

[low blows]

Toney is as close to throwback as you can get and Holyfield
couldn't even beaat him

That Holyfield was shot to pieces, let alone anything following that. There is no logic to think a cruiserweight who stood in the pocket could be beat these modern boxers. Jessie Owens is a fact because of the stopwatch but in boxing a myth can evolve around an athlete. I think there is less so in football and baseball less Babe Ruth because athletes are so much bigger and stronger.

[low blows]

Because it was a different era. If you going to talk, a least put both on the same level field. Take hollyfield back to the 30's to see how he does. Comparing athletes of different eras is pointless. The environment, the way they train, what they eat, everything is different. That is where we learn from, history.

Holyfield would have been 190 at best. He would have had no weights, PED's and even his diet would have been different. Old time heavyweights literally ate like boxers making weight.

When you watch modern heavyweights they literally don't skimp on the calories as long as the food is quality natural food.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Would Joshua survive 15 rounds with Joe Louis?

[Ascended]

Because it was a different era. If you going to talk, a least put both on the same level field. Take hollyfield back to the 30's to see how he does. Comparing athletes of different eras is pointless. The environment, the way they train, what they eat, everything is different. That is where we learn from, history.

I see so it advances like I always say huh cause they always say that Louis is the most skilled yet he stugggled with people 70s-90s fighters wouldn't and joe was missing advances they had

cause I can drop late 80s-
90s early-mid holy and all of these versions of him will run through that trash era and never would he stuggle or be beat unlike joe who they say was the most skilled yet missing mutiple advances holy had and the people he fought

[Ascended]

Would Joshua survive 15 rounds with Joe Louis?

No cause it wouldnt go past 1 by Anthony koing him anybody knows that who can see

[Ascended]

That Holyfield was shot to pieces, let alone anything following that. There is no logic to think a cruiserweight who stood in the pocket could be beat these modern boxers. Jessie Owens is a fact because of the stopwatch but in boxing a myth can evolve around an athlete. I think there is less so in football and baseball less Babe Ruth because athletes are so much bigger and stronger.

Low the legend is here where you been and yea your right I have explained mutiple times to these crazy idiots its like they can't see

[Ascended]

Look at this people who can see like low and paulf

from days ago I told this to shoulder

Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good

Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed

klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous

His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed

often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly

both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared

[Ascended]

Obviously true.

Boxers are like guitar players - each generation builds on the prior ounces advances in technique and training methods. Any average popular guitarist kid on YouTube could play circles around Jimi Hendrix.

You look at someone like Jim Jefferies and everyone can agree his technique/skillset is laughable, he'd be getting blown out of the ring in the opening fight of a ShoBox card if he stepped through a time machine into today.

But when it comes to applying that OBVIOUS gap due to advances technique and technique, not to mention a century of advances in nutrition, to fighters like Johnson up through Ali, people have a serious mental block.

They prefer to live in their fantasies.

Is it mental or bad vision i say both
this must be the general area

cause in the classic are quotes like experts say Joe was the most skilled yet he was missing advances they had in movement from 70s-now and he stuggled with people those areas never would struggle with let alone ever be beat