Holyfield says Joe Louis couldn't make it in boxing today

[Ascended]

yeah thats the thing, holyfield is a top fighter in his own right. its not like we are matching louis with some bum or abc belt holder. holyfiled was fighting guys who are 240 and also on gear like he was, its a different era. joe louis was fighting a lot of 185 pound guys who boxed part time and worked at a factory.

That dude said he thinks joe could beat the people I named i know for a fact the real joe on video wouldn't but these crazy idiots don't talk from the real joe their joe is fiction so he has the advances I described and have always described their joe also is heavier and not slow of feet

[KidDinamita]

Can't question Holyfield's will, because he used to come out and fight, but I believe Louis is able to beat most of today's heavyweights. IMO he would be AJ, Ruiz Jr, Chisora, Whyte and Parker.

Might be a more competitive fight against Wilder and Fury. But from footage, looks like Louis beat Primo Carnera quite easily, which Primo was 6'6 and weighed around 260lbs

[Ascended]

Can't question Holyfield's will, because he used to come out and fight, but I believe Louis is able to beat most of today's heavyweights. IMO he would be AJ, Ruiz Jr, Chisora, Whyte and Parker.

Might be a more competitive fight against Wilder and Fury. But from footage, looks like Louis beat Primo Carnera quite easily, which Primo was 6'6 and weighed around 260lbs

So everything you say that would work does work for the fiction joe so yea your thoughts make sense for that version on how he would do vs these dudes

Ali showed you the same exact thing I always said why did he mock him if he wasnt like I said

why did Bill and jers outbox joe easy and make him look foolish when joe was supposed to be the best mover of the whole era

Had Ali Frazier and others in his era been in Joe's time none of them would struggle like joe did

These questions all lead to the the same quote/catch phrase I always said joe was slow stiff and missing advances the real joe im talking one only

not the fiction joe that you think that was real is it anything to disagree with sense were talking on 2 different versions of a fighter

So yea you can believe the fiction joe beating these fighters he never fought in style and movement but the real joe on video showed he would be way outmatched

talking about canera that dude was trash stiff and slow why say that name it doesn't mean anything fury moves way better then him and way more skilled you crazy idiot

[nacho daddy]

what about the fact that holyfield was juiced to the gills? it almost ruined his heart. what would he be able to do to louis drug free? I think the answer is not much

[garfios]

disrespectful, but its true.

It's disrespectful but not true. Do you think Joe Louis with the same technical and nutritional advances, and the peds hollyfield used, would have been the same fighter, that we saw back them? Same with Jesse Owens and all those athletes.

[Silence]

So everything you say that would work does work for the fiction joe so yea your thoughts make sense for that version on how he would do vs these dudes

Ali showed you the same exact thing I always said why did he mock him if he wasnt like I said

why did Bill and jers outbox joe easy and make him look foolish when joe was supposed to be the best mover of the whole era

Had Ali Frazier and others in his era been in Joe's time none of them would struggle like joe did

These questions all lead to the the same quote/catch phrase I always said joe was slow stiff and missing advances the real joe im talking one only

not the fiction joe that you think that was real remember you said what you think yet have no evidence of joe fighting these type of people with all the advances in movement i brokedown so your thoughts don't matter to me for the fiction joe

is it anything to disagree with since were talking on 2 different versions of a fighter it shouldn't be anything to disagree with


I have asked you people since last year to prove me wrong you refuse to all I get is video I already seen of the REAL JOE I told you of nobody has and wont give me video of the fiction joe that you talk of and others

What are real and fiction? If I lived in fiction, I would say he would KO modern heavyweights. I live in reality and see him as a solid fighter and ATG. He could beat slow plodder Makabu, unskilled Joe Smith Jr. and Okolie.

You argue with the wrong person.

[garfios]

He's really talking about slow afoot. Joe pawed with the jab and it was slow, it was a setup punch though to lull you to sleep, right hand was fast, jab too when he wanted it to be, but Ali was only saying that Joe wouldnt be able to find him and I beleive it for the most part, its pretty easy to see. As far as the evolutionary part, its mostly true also, guys today are bigger, if you dont think size plays a difference it does. I can name quite a few that I think would have beat Joe Louis, alot of it to do with their size, but skill also.

Joe Louis would have been bigger in this era.

[Ascended]

What are real and fiction? If I lived in fiction, I would say he would KO modern heavyweights. I live in reality and see him as a solid fighter and ATG. He could beat slow plodder Makabu, unskilled Joe Smith Jr. and Okolie.

You argue with the wrong person.

No your talking on a fiction joe like I said you are cause your saying he could beat people he never fought in style and movement and you know you cant prove me wrong so yea your crazy

nobody in their right mind sees the fighters and how they fought and see how joe fought people and see joe could land on these dudes enough to beat them he would be destroyed its easy to see thats if you could see good and wasnt crazy cause like i said were talking on 2 different versions of the same fighter

Did you not see me say your joe has the advanced movement the fighters you named has and isn't slow and he fought people with these type of movements

My joe which is on video is missing advances in movement and is slow and stiff and never fought people with these type of movements

[Ascended]

It's disrespectful but not true. Do you think Joe Louis with the same technical and nutritional advances, and the peds hollyfield used, would have been the same fighter, that we saw back them? Same with Jesse Owens and all those athletes.

Why does he need anything why can't we drop him how he was

[QueensburyRules]

if you took joe louis out of a time machine and threw him in with holyfield he would be obliterated

nobody wants to hear that idk why its so controversial.

joe louis was good for his era.

- - Evan heavy record is 26-10-2, 11 KO.

Title record 10-7-2, 4 KO

Joe won 26 straight title fights before getting beat post WW with more career KOs than Evan has fights.

Evan would've sukked in Joe's era as badly as U suk in your era...THE END