Is Oscar De La Hoya an all-time great?

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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #181
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    I answered. The truth just hurts. Don't feel bad, Oscar will always have his fans. Most of them wear high heels like you .

    Just messin with you on the last line but had to throw that in there! LOL. It is what it is. We can agree to disagree.
    Well when it comes to those photos with him dressing up, Oscar is on his own then lol.

    Its cool, no biggie, you didn't annoy me at all unlike the Marg haters.
    You have your opinions & I have mine, we don't always agree, part of being human.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #182
      Originally posted by chicano79us
      Well when it comes to those photos with him dressing up, Oscar is on his own then lol.

      Its cool, no biggie, you didn't annoy me at all unlike the Marg haters.
      You have your opinions & I have mine, we don't always agree, part of being human.
      I'll tell ya what...as long as Oscar wore those weirdo outfits with a hot model chick(not man)...he's alright in my book. ****, I might wear one too for some of that. LOL, let me stop.

      Good debate.

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      • Savino
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        #183
        IMO he is.

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        • We want Floyd
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          #184
          ATG my @ss. To this day, alot of people still don't consider PAC an ATG, yet Joto who has lost the majority of his biggest bouts is being hailed as one by many.

          I guess PAC needs to start losing the majority of his big bouts to get his respect.

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          • oneiros1313
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            #185
            Not an all time great, but certainly a first ballot HOF'er.

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            • Silencers
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              #186
              I'm really not sure about this, for his impact on the sport, yes, no one since Leonard had so much crossover appeal, he has won a lot of titles in multiple weight divisions but he's lost in all his biggest fights, doesn't matter if some think he won a couple of those fights, they'll always be Ls on his record. And most of the titlists he has beaten were not on his level.

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              • Tito1
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                #187
                Originally posted by KOTheFat
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                Id say no beacuse hes lost all his big fights!

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                • We want Floyd
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Tito1
                  Id say no beacuse hes lost all his big fights!
                  Here's an analogy. If a football team has had a 14-2 regular season record and has made it to the division championship round and lost for the last 5 years, is that an ATG team? The answer is no, to be an ATG you simply have to win when it matters most!

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                  • The_Italian
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                    #189
                    I think he's an all time great...

                    when you look at his career achievements, resume; etc.

                    I think HOF'er and ATG isnt out of the question...

                    HOF'er for sure...POSSIBLY an ATG...

                    he gets my vote.

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                    • lparm
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by chicano79us
                      Haha good comeback.You still didn't answer my question. Which Prime Great fighter has BHOP beaten that didn't have to come up in weight?? Before you mention Trinidad, he wasn't ever a true Middleweight.
                      Hopkins cleaned out the division and then defend the belt 20 times and 6 of those undisputed title defenses. He did something DLH has never and will never do and that's beat everyone with a claim to being the best at that weight class. DLH has always been the 2nd or 3rd best in every division he's fought in, how can a fighter be an ATG when he can't even lay claim to being the legit division champ? Floyd held the 'BC but at least he beat the 2nd best guy. Has DLH ever beaten the best or (if you place him at the top) the 2nd best in any division he's been in?

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