Final answer. Chad Dawson beats Calzaghe

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    #61
    No doubt about it B*tch slapper looks fast against 40 year old fighters. And Slappy is fast, but his speed is not gonna be overwhelming against Dawson.

    I see Dawson having difficulty in the first 5 rounds, due to Slappy's rhythm, but once he gets into a groove, slappy better have his guard high, 'cause them hooks and uppercuts from a big LHW are comin' hard and fast.

    Just like what Freddie Roach has been saying about Oscar "He can't pull the trigger anymore". The same goes for B-Hop and RJJ. It's not so much Calzaghe looks great, but RJJ and B-Hop made him look formidable.

    It ain't gonna happen against Dawson, who is a terrific counter-puncher, a tough kid, Calzaghe gets sloppy alot throwin' those combinations, and you best believe Dawson is gonna make him pay in-between those slap-a-thons.
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      #62
      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
      Calzaghe has more experience and many people will say he has a better chin( which is moot in this fight). I personally don't see him being faster than Dawson, stronger, a better boxer ect. What southpaw has Calzaghe fought? Dawson looks his best at boxing, where as Joe himself even admitted that he likes when his opponents come forward.
      The main worry for Dawson would be just getting totally overwhelmed by Calzaghe's workrate in my view. If it is a tactical fight fought at distance Dawson wins, but Joe would ensure that did not happen. IT would come down to how effective Dawson is at catching Joe as he comes in the throw those flurries. I give Dawson a much greater chance than all the Brit nughuggers that is for sure.

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        #63
        Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
        A double standard at its best. Hopkins wasn't past it but Tarver was? Even though Tarver had two titles and Johnson was still on a winning streak and both of them were rated in the top 3 at the time?
        Hopkins is P4P top ten as of now(4th behind Calzaghe i believe?). He beat Pavlik after his loss to Calzaghe. He's old, but he ain't past it!

        Tarver got one belt. The IBO belt doesn't count. Johnson is past it! A blind man and his dog could see that! Yet many feel he beat Dawson?

        It also brings me back to an earlier post i made in this thread that Calzaghe gets ridaculed for fighting Hopkins and RJJ, but Dawson gets off lightly for fighting Tarver and Jonson and all of a sudden people think he can beat Calzaghe?

        It doesn't add up?

        He ain't ready for Calzaghe. If you don't agree with me then fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion and am entitled to mine.

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          #64
          Originally posted by danc1984
          The main worry for Dawson would be just getting totally overwhelmed by Calzaghe's workrate in my view. If it is a tactical fight fought at distance Dawson wins, but Joe would ensure that did not happen. IT would come down to how effective Dawson is at catching Joe as he comes in the throw those flurries. I give Dawson a much greater chance than all the Brit nughuggers that is for sure.
          Dawson has faced a hard-paced fighter in Johnson, and he didn't do a bad job handling it.

          Dawson is a tough kid, he'll be smiling at those slaps w/ combinations of his own.

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            #65
            Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
            Dawson has faced a hard-paced fighter in Johnson, and he didn't do a bad job handling it.

            Dawson is a tough kid, he'll be smiling at those slaps w/ combinations of his own.
            That was the hardest fight of Chad's career. I felt he won but it was very close. That fight is the main reason why I would pick Calzaghe to beat Chad. I did not like the way Dawson handled a pressure fighter in that one and I think Joe is a better pressure fighter than Glen.

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              #66
              Originally posted by danc1984
              The main worry for Dawson would be just getting totally overwhelmed by Calzaghe's workrate in my view. If it is a tactical fight fought at distance Dawson wins, but Joe would ensure that did not happen. IT would come down to how effective Dawson is at catching Joe as he comes in the throw those flurries. I give Dawson a much greater chance than all the Brit nughuggers that is for sure.
              There is ways of offsetting that. Jones and Hopkins both had the right game plan but didn't have the stamina at their ages to fully implement it. Dawson is big and strong enough to keep the fight in the center of the ring, counter with straight accurate effective punches and tie up to nullify that. He punches hard enough and his stamina is good enough to keep Joe at bay. Joe has been down in his last 2 fights but there is no doubt that he has a great chin. However, i wonder that if he would have the chin to take Dawson's counter right uppercut or left hook to the body? We don't know that answer yet.

              Originally posted by Addition
              The way you're posting these days is shocking. You make it seem as if Dawson is better in every single department.

              Dawson the better boxer? Debatable to say the least.
              Another thing is that i have always said this stuff about Dawson even when i first came here. I have been following his career since 2005, , i spoke to him one time on ******* and i analyzed most of his fights. He put in the work at light heavyweight, and it baffles me how a win over Jones is being talked about more than all of Chad's success at 175. Hes been there, Joe has had 2 fights and is considered the best already.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Chunk
                Hopkins is P4P top ten as of now(4th behind Calzaghe i believe?). He beat Pavlik after his loss to Calzaghe. He's old, but he ain't past it!

                Tarver got one belt. The IBO belt doesn't count. Johnson is past it! A blind man and his dog could see that! Yet many feel he beat Dawson?

                It also brings me back to an earlier post i made in this thread that Calzaghe gets ridaculed for fighting Hopkins and RJJ, but Dawson gets off lightly for fighting Tarver and Jonson and all of a sudden people think he can beat Calzaghe?

                It doesn't add up?

                He ain't ready for Calzaghe. If you don't agree with me then fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion and am entitled to mine.
                Lol, B-Hop has been past it since the days of fighting Tito and DLH. B-Hop prior to Pavlik, has been taking longer and longer to find his rhythm in fights, that is definitely a sign of his reflexes deteriorating.

                He and GBP have done a terrific job of promoting him and getting him the fights he can look good in, and even in winning against DLH, it took him awhile to find the proper range, this wouldn't be the case in a young B-Hop

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                  No doubt about it B*tch slapper looks fast against 40 year old fighters. And Slappy is fast, but his speed is not gonna be overwhelming against Dawson.

                  I see Dawson having difficulty in the first 5 rounds, due to Slappy's rhythm, but once he gets into a groove, slappy better have his guard high, 'cause them hooks and uppercuts from a big LHW are comin' hard and fast.

                  Just like what Freddie Roach has been saying about Oscar "He can't pull the trigger anymore". The same goes for B-Hop and RJJ. It's not so much Calzaghe looks great, but RJJ and B-Hop made him look formidable.

                  It ain't gonna happen against Dawson, who is a terrific counter-puncher, a tough kid, Calzaghe gets sloppy alot throwin' those combinations, and you best believe Dawson is gonna make him pay in-between those slap-a-thons.
                  Dawson doesn't have the power to hurt Calzaghe. Dawson loses fight. Simple.



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                      #70
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      That was the hardest fight of Chad's career. I felt he won but it was very close. That fight is the main reason why I would pick Calzaghe to beat Chad. I did not like the way Dawson handled a pressure fighter in that one and I think Joe is a better pressure fighter than Glen.
                      Johnson punches much harder, and is also much bigger than Calzaghe and natural at light heavy. He is also not a southpaw. I also think that many people underestimate fighting your first southpaw for the first time. Johnson was about 11-1 against southpaw's before he fought Dawson so he has very good experience against them.

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