How was Roy Jones P4P #1 for so many years?Why didnt he ever step up his competition?

[azza21]

Now We Question RJJ's Compitetion? well i guess if calz sucks we have to question Roy's too

Toney
Tarver
Hopkins(who lost a highly disputed SD to Calz and He was 43)
Montell Griffith

So those fighters arent as good as

Kessler
Bika
a 43-year old hopkins
Lacey?

He did step up and won, he moved up in weight to HW And Beat Ruiz for a middle weight its a tough feat.

Roy Wins this c'mon now its as plain as the election

Ur forgetting Eubank.

[Truth]

In defense of Calzaghe, beating a 43 year old Hopkins still ain't easy....

[SkilledB]

Ur forgetting Eubank.

oh yes thank you

still a Eubank that Joe's Beat would beat a Toney or Hopkins that Jones beat?

[Chr0nic]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219755

[azza21]

oh yes thank you

still a Eubank that Joe's Beat would beat a Toney or Hopkins that Jones beat?

Thing is Eubank was over the hill, not the fighter he once was when Calzaghe beat him, but he was still tough and a big name and Calzaghe but him on his arse in the first round, that was impressive. I think a prime Eubank would give, toney and hopkins a good fight, that's just my opinion.

[The Jackal]

Thing is Eubank was over the hill, not the fighter he once was when Calzaghe beat him, but he was still tough and a big name and Calzaghe but him on his arse in the first round, that was impressive. I think a prime Eubank would give, toney and hopkins a good fight, that's just my opinion.

Eubank not to be under estimated very good boxer especially counter punching if it were a technical fight he'd give trouble to all the top fighters.

Calzaghe had it hard against an over the hill Eubank.
What way would it go with a younger Eubank?

[kenso]

Did you just recently become a Boxing fan?, and you were just 9 or 10 years young at the pinnacle of Roy's career, how well could you comprehend and assess his career? Do your research before making such a blatant comment, talk about hate?, seems you have plenty for an ATG.

oh boy

when jones fought frazier (and many other opponents on that level), that was the best opponent/contender jones could come up with? there wasnt a better fighter willing to fight jones? come on.

also can a 10 year old not watch the sport of boxing?

people give jones credit for beating ruiz, but the fact is ruiz was not a legit heavyweight champ, he sucks, hes always ******, i dont know how he manages to find his way to title shots these days. there are SERIOUSLY lightweights that can beat john ruiz. jones being a "heavyweight champion" sounds ALOT better than "jones beat john ruiz". if ruiz didnt have a belt no one would have given a ****. i think jones would have had trouble with a fast hard hitting heavyweight maybe like david haye, and lennox lewis would have absolutely crushed him. if he wanted to make some kind of statement by moving into heavyweight, fight someone legit, not john ruiz. there were far better choices than john ruiz, just like there were far better choices than frazier.

what ever consume yourselves with the thought of jones' ****, but while he had a great career, my argument is that he was not what a p4p champ represents, he was no where near the p4p champ that pac is, and not even mayweather (even though i hate mayweather).

i like jones, hes not a bad guy, but he did not represent what a p4p champ should represent, therefore he was completely over rated.

[kenso]

So in one line you say "Jones is a good guy and a great fighter" and in the next "bring the hate, i love it". Contradict yourself much?

umm as in, you guys start hating on my post, cause i love when people do that.

and the jones statement had nothing to do with the statement afterwards.

[Pullcounter]

I mean for years he picked on sanitation workers and police officers. When he finally stepped up his competition he got his ass handed to him by vicious knockouts and was exposed.

Please help me out because I'm confused as to how he was so called "The baddest man" on the planet and P4P #1??

rjj beat toney who was p4p at the time. eventually everyone above him lost or dropped off the p4p list and then rjj went to the top.

[jkdking]

tony fought at just over 180lbs the night of the fight.