did Jones avoid the best fighters and fight so cautiously cause

[THE REED]

My logic would dictate that one of the current champions was the best Middleweight in the world at that time.

Your logic dictates that a guy with no championship fights who'd been fighting bums was the best.

Which sounds more like common sense?

Just because they hadnt fought yet, does not make The champion better then the other.

Taylor was the MW champion of the world at the time... did that mean he was better then Pavlik? Just because they hadnt fought? History showed us who was the better MW.

Just like it did with Hopkins. Period.

[hishaam15]

One more time...........with the IBF or overall?

When I start falling at the alter of what Lampley says, I'll let you know.

overall, reason being all the champs moved up in weight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

overall, reason being all the champs moved up in weight.

Gerald McClellan moved up in weight two years after Roy fought Bernard.

I cant believe Im having a debate with 3 Roy fanboys and I know more about the **** than all of them put together.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Just because they hadnt fought yet, does not make The champion better then the other.

Taylor was the MW champion of the world at the time... did that mean he was better then Pavlik? Just because they hadnt fought? History showed us who was the better MW.

Just like it did with Hopkins. Period.

Does that mean that Clinton Mitchell beat the best Middleweight? No because Hopkins wasnt the best AT THE TIME. What part of that is so hard to understand?

[j.razor]

did Jones avoid the best fighters and fight so cautiously cause he knew he had a glass chin all along ?

nah, he jus aint have no compitition...

[THE REED]

Does that mean that Clinton Mitchell beat the best Middleweight? No because Hopkins wasnt the best AT THE TIME. What part of that is so hard to understand?

im just gonna agree to disagree, because were not gonna see eye to eye on it

[Dirk Diggler UK]

im just gonna agree to disagree, because were not gonna see eye to eye on it

Fair enough. But Hopkins was nowhere near being the top Middleweight at the time. Thats just the way it goes. Julian Jackson, The G-Man, Mike McCallum, Sumbu Kalamby and others were all ahead of him at that time.

If Jones had beaten Hopkins a few years later, then he would've beaten the best middleweight in the world no doubt.

[Chase8400]

Gerald McClellan moved up in weight two years after Roy fought Bernard.

I cant believe Im having a debate with 3 Roy fanboys and I know more about the **** than all of them put together.

You know absolutely ****, *******. BTW, I'm not emotional, you just get on my damn nerves. I thought I was over your ignorant ****, but apparently I'm not.

Pavlik-Ring champ @ middleweight.
Abraham-Ring #1 ranked middleweight.

Not only that, but in the buildup to the fight with B-hop, Jones was the #2 ranked Ring middleweight and B-hop was #1. That's all you need to know. YET! , You keep going and going and going!

Get that **** now? I have an easier time explaining things to my 2 year old son.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You know absolutely ****, *******. BTW, I'm not emotional, you just get on my damn nerves. I thought I was over your ignorant ****, but apparently I'm not.

Pavlik-Ring champ @ middleweight.
Abraham-Ring #1 ranked middleweight.

Not only that, but in the buildup to the fight with B-hop, Jones was the #2 ranked Ring middleweight and B-hop was #1. That's all you need to know. YET! , You keep going and going and going!

Get that **** now? I have an easier time explaining things to my 2 year old son.

You're very emotional. I can sense the rage. Please calm yourself.

Splitting hairs. Arthur Abraham holds a championship. Hes defended it a few times and beaten notable opponents. Bernard Hopkins had done none of this when he fought Roy.

The next part is complete and utter bull****. You clearly have no idea. Hopkins and Jones were not the Number's 1 and 2 with the Ring. Please learn about the boxer you nuthug. It would help.

Your two year old son is probably more level headed than you and probably knows more about Roy Jones and boxing in general.

[Zocalo]

Another ****** thread....