did Jones avoid the best fighters and fight so cautiously cause

[Benny Leonard]

When was this offer made? Roy said after the Glen Kelly fight that he was gonna go to HBO and demand a fight with "that German cat". But he ended up with Clinton Woods. Go figure.

Somebody will have to do the rest of the looking, this is all I got for now:

http://www.insideboxing.com/Columnist/boy_wonder/keeping_up_with_jones.htm

Darius Michalczewski went on record as saying that he was having discussions with the Jones camp and Jones was uninterested in entering into any fight plans with him. The offer made by Michalczewski was for Roy Jones, Jr. to accept some $2 million dollars while he would receive $4 million dollars in a bout that would happen sometime late September or early October.

Jones, being the businessman he is, laughed at the ridiculous offer. This was not only an insult to Jones, but to any boxing fan in the world. Roy Jones, Jr. is the draw in any bout he is involved in for the immediate future. To think otherwise is insane. But to think he would go and fight in another country for a lesser amount is even more comical.

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I did hear there was something after this with Roy giving an offer to Darius people but he would have to fight in America...which Darius said no.

[Chase8400]

At Middle: maybe not...but there is always a chance of losing.


At Light-Heavyweight: Charles, Moore, Spinks, Marciano (if we count him as a LH), Billy Conn, Gene Tunney, Bob Foster...all could have given Roy a tough test even though Roy is far superior athletic wise.

Roy would have little trouble with any of those names there. Marciano was never fighting @ 175, so he don't count. A few of the names on there also do not qualify. In my opinion, Jones combined power, speed and athleticism at the weight that has never been seen before or since his prime. Joe C. was nowhere close to that either.

[Benny Leonard]

Roy would have little trouble with any of those names there. Marciano was never fighting @ 175, so he don't count. A few of the names on there also do not qualify. In my opinion, Jones combined power, speed and athleticism at the weight that has never been seen before or since his prime. Joe C. was nowhere close to that either.

Marciao was 185 pounds. If you consider most, if not all Light-Heavyweights weigh-in at 185 by fight time, Marciano is a Light-Heavyweight...so for me, he counts.

And have you seen all the names I mentioned fight?

Spinks alone at 175 was incredible: Fast, slick, tall, skilled...undefeated.

Oh, forgot to mention Michael Moorer as a LH.

[Chase8400]

Right.

So Hopkins a guy with 23 fights, not one single notable opponent, not even a championship fight let alone a belt was the best middleweight in the world.

If thats the case, I would hate to seen who was the worst middleweight.

What am I supposed to be biased for? Common sense?

First! YOU ARE A JONES HATER!

Secondly, do you know that you can be the #1 rated Ring fighter without being the best at the weight? The champion gets his own bracket ya dunce. That would go beyond the common sense you claim to have i guess. Maybe you should do some acual research instead of make **** up on the fly. You are the only a55hole on here who can never even admit he was wrong even in the face of a dozen other members witnessing it. What a putz. LOL

[Benny Leonard]

For Jones Jr.'s CHIN:

After seeing Tarver get wobbled/dropped by Old Hopkins and Chris Byrd get destroyed when he moved down to LH after losing weight just like Roy and Tarver did...is there any wonder anymore that muscle-weight loss, especially at their age, effects your legs and the rest of you- like your CHIN?

Roy took shots when he was at his best but didn't get KFTO. He did go down but got right up.

John Ruiz landed a nice clean shot on Roy, which did wobble him a bit, but Ruiz was also a true HW who also knocked down Holyfield.

Jr.'s chin is far from Iron but far from Glass.

When the spirit is taken out of you, that electricity, it's hard to take a shot.

[Chase8400]

Studder

One always results to spelling errors when one knows one has been over matched and utterly dominated. Go back to sleep. You need to bring it to step to me in intellect, son.

[Chase8400]

I never said Jones was scared. I think the risk/reward factor was too low for him to ever take a fight with Calzaghe.

Now hes fighting him, he gets a bumper payday and no one gives a **** if he loses.

I reply to any post I think warrants a reply. Its how things work on a forum. Cheers.

My posts all warrant reply's? I feel blessed, coming from you............................................... ......NOT!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

First! YOU ARE A JONES HATER!

Secondly, do you know that you can be the #1 rated Ring fighter without being the best at the weight? The champion gets his own bracket ya dunce. That would go beyond the common sense you claim to have i guess. Maybe you should do some acual research instead of make **** up on the fly. You are the only a55hole on here who can never even admit he was wrong even in the face of a dozen other members witnessing it. What a putz. LOL

How am I a Jones hater? Please exaplain that to me. Like I said, its a cop out for Jones LOVERS/FANBOYS like you to suggest anyone who criticises him is a hater. You're so emotional and sensitive, its quite pathetic.

So Hopkins was ranked the number 1 fighter at middleweight but he wasnt the best at the weight?

That makes perfect sense.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Somebody will have to do the rest of the looking, this is all I got for now:

http://www.insideboxing.com/Columnist/boy_wonder/keeping_up_with_jones.htm

Darius Michalczewski went on record as saying that he was having discussions with the Jones camp and Jones was uninterested in entering into any fight plans with him. The offer made by Michalczewski was for Roy Jones, Jr. to accept some $2 million dollars while he would receive $4 million dollars in a bout that would happen sometime late September or early October.

Jones, being the businessman he is, laughed at the ridiculous offer. This was not only an insult to Jones, but to any boxing fan in the world. Roy Jones, Jr. is the draw in any bout he is involved in for the immediate future. To think otherwise is insane. But to think he would go and fight in another country for a lesser amount is even more comical.

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I did hear there was something after this with Roy giving an offer to Darius people but he would have to fight in America...which Darius said no.

I just read that article. You actually think its credible with phrases like:

"when the dust settles the pretenders to the throne are just that…pretenders."

"Bernard Hopkins eliminated himself by saying $3 million dollars was not enough money to be destroyed by Jones for a second time"

"Darius Michalczewski has no business being mentioned in the equation."

I mean he stops short at saying he wants to give Roy a blow job but still.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

One always results to spelling errors when one knows one has been over matched and utterly dominated. Go back to sleep. You need to bring it to step to me in intellect, son.

Intellect? You thought the word was "studder". Im sorry but I just found that hilarious.